Diego Sanches Is P4P Better Fighter Than BJ Penn, And Here Is Why

[Pessimist_Pete]

Its simple actually. Diego has key wins in three different divisions:

 

1. He recently beat Paulo Thiago (at 170 lbs).

2. Before that, he beat Guida and Joe Daddy (at 155 lbs)

3. Before that, he beat Karo, Diaz, and Riggs (at 170 lbs)

4. And before that, he beat Kenny Florian (at 180 lbs, and he took home the TUF tournament crown)

 

In my book, what Diego has done in his career is way more impressive than what guys like BJ Penn have done, because he only fought in two weight classes, whereas Diego has fought in three weight classes. Why then is Diego not listed in more of the pound-for-pound lists on the mma websites?

 

Let me know if you agree or disagree, and discuss thanx.

[DMac614]

This dude!

[PuppetsAndHolyWars]

Its simple actually. Diego has key wins in three different divisions:

 

1. He recently beat Paulo Thiago (at 170 lbs).

2. Before that' date=' he beat Guida and Joe Daddy (at [b']155 lbs[/b])

3. Before that, he beat Karo, Diaz, and Riggs (at 170 lbs)

4. And before that, he beat Kenny Florian (at 180 lbs, and he took home the TUF tournament crown)

 

In my book, what Diego has done in his career is way more impressive than what guys like BJ Penn have done, because he only fought in two weight classes, whereas Diego has fought in three weight classes. Why then is Diego not listed in more of the pound-for-pound lists on the mma websites?

 

Let me know if you agree or disagree, and discuss thanx.

 

UFC 107 thats why

[T_Rocket]

FAIL

 

How many titles has he won in the UFC?

[Striker_Kid]

UFC 107 thats why

 

lol this^

[Jbrahams]

UFC 107 thats why

 

+ 1

[MABFanForLife]

As soon as Diego wins the LW, WW, and MW title, and avenges his loss to BJ, I will consider him a better p4p fighter than BJ.

[CorporalClegg]

Its simple actually. Diego has key wins in three different divisions:

 

1. He recently beat Paulo Thiago (at 170 lbs).

2. Before that' date=' he beat Guida and Joe Daddy (at [b']155 lbs)[/b]

3. Before that, he beat Karo, Diaz, and Riggs (at 170 lbs)

4. And before that, he beat Kenny Florian (at 180 lbs, and he took home the TUF tournament crown)

 

In my book, what Diego has done in his career is way more impressive than what guys like BJ Penn have done, because he only fought in two weight classes, whereas Diego has fought in three weight classes. Why then is Diego not listed in more of the pound-for-pound lists on the mma websites?

 

Let me know if you agree or disagree, and discuss thanx.

 

1. Penn would beat him too.

2. Penn finished one of them and would rape the other inside the first round.

3. Karo and Riggs??? Wow impressive.

4. Penn mauled a much more experienced Florian at his natural weighclass in much better condition.

 

Penn has fought in FOUR weightclasses to Diego's 3...

 

3-3 at welterweight wins over Hughes (x2) and Ludwig. Losses to Hughes once and GSP twice (first fight was BS)

 

2-0 at middleweight with wins over Gracies.

 

0-1 at HW taking a 220 pound Machida the distance and landing the best strike of the fight that sent Machida staggering across the ring. 29-28 decision loss.

[BarberBeefcake]

1. Penn would beat him too.

2. Penn finished one of them and would rape the other inside the first round.

3. Karo and Riggs??? Wow impressive.

4. Penn mauled a much more experienced Florian at his natural weighclass in much better condition.

 

Penn has fought in FOUR weightclasses to Diego's 3...

 

3-3 at welterweight wins over Hughes (x2) and Ludwig. Losses to Hughes once and GSP twice (first fight was BS)

 

2-0 at middleweight with wins over Gracies.

 

0-1 at HW taking a 220 pound Machida the distance and landing the best strike of the fight that sent Machida staggering across the ring. 29-28 decision loss.

 

you just got pete-rolled:D

[Exodus9mm]

No.

 

Penn sliced him up in one of the most dominating LW beatings of all-time.

 

If you'd said he's P4P better than Dustin Hazelett, you might be onto something.

[Pessimist_Pete]

As soon as Diego wins the LW' date=' WW, and MW title, and avenges his loss to BJ, I will consider him a better p4p fighter than BJ.[/quote']

 

BJ does not have any key wins in three divisions like Diego. Plus, you are forgetting that Deigo won the first TUF tournament. That counts tremendously because Diego was basically a pioneer for the sport in that regard. Thusly, is P4P better than BJ Penn.

[KozureOkami]

And has won the UFC strap in 2 weight cla.... oh wait... we're getting trolled.

[Riot_Act101]

@ puppets dude you may want to delete those gifs.....that will get you banned. fight gifs are nay okay

[CorporalClegg]

Oh yeah I'll just throw it out there but in a 5 round fight Diego Sanchez landed something like THREE strikes on BJ Penn. Got bombed on over 100 times in the process and then caught an axe wound to the forehead.

 

Diego Sanchez and Kenny Florian were both VERY close to being knocked out in highlight reel fashion in the first round. Diego got dropped and nearly pounded out less then 30 seconds in and Kenny was nearly HL reeled by a flying knee that landed on his shoulder instead of chin at the very end of round 1.

[KozureOkami]

It's not fight footage, though...

[PuppetsAndHolyWars]

@ puppets dude you may want to delete those gifs.....that will get you banned. fight gifs are nay okay

 

nice save

[CorporalClegg]

BJ does not have any key wins in three divisions like Diego. Plus' date=' you are forgetting that Deigo won the first TUF tournament. That counts tremendously because Diego was basically a pioneer for the sport in that regard. [/b'] Thusly, is P4P better than BJ Penn.

 

lol okay troll I will take your word for it.

[Pessimist_Pete]

1. Penn would beat him too.

2. Penn finished one of them and would rape the other inside the first round.

3. Karo and Riggs??? Wow impressive.

4. Penn mauled a much more experienced Florian at his natural weighclass in much better condition.

 

Penn has fought in FOUR weightclasses to Diego's 3...

 

3-3 at welterweight wins over Hughes (x2) and Ludwig. Losses to Hughes once and GSP twice (first fight was BS)

 

2-0 at middleweight with wins over Gracies.

 

0-1 at HW taking a 220 pound Machida the distance and landing the best strike of the fight that sent Machida staggering across the ring. 29-28 decision loss.

 

Invalid point by you, as I stated before. Understand that BJ does not have any key wins in three divisions like Diego.

 

Plus, you are forgetting that Deigo won the first TUF tournament. That counts tremendously because Diego was basically a pioneer for the sport in that regard. Thusly, is P4P better than BJ Penn.

[Riot_Act101]

nice save

 

haha dont worry

[PuppetsAndHolyWars]

Invalid point by you' date=' as I stated before. Understand that BJ does not have any key wins in three divisions like Diego.

 

Plus, you are forgetting that Deigo won the first TUF tournament. That counts tremendously because Diego was basically a pioneer for the sport in that regard. Thusly, is P4P better than BJ Penn.[/quote']

 

You would be right if BJ hadnt been fighting before Sanchez

[MABFanForLife]

BJ does not have any key wins in three divisions like Diego. Plus' date=' you are forgetting that Deigo won the first TUF tournament. That counts tremendously because Diego was basically a pioneer for the sport in that regard. Thusly, is P4P better than BJ Penn.[/quote']

 

Key wins don't mean **** compared to winning titles in two divisions, a feat no one besides Randy Couture has accomplished in the UFC.

 

As for winning the first TUF tournament? Sure. I'll give him some credit for that, but the only fighter to have really done anything after their TUF days was Rashad and Forrest (though his career is starting to decline quickly). No one else from the TUF series has really made a huge impact on the current MMA world. So I don't give that much merit.

 

Your attempts at trying to make Diego's legacy greater than Penn's is met with utter failure.

[CorporalClegg]

Invalid point by you' date=' as I stated before. Understand that BJ does not have any key wins in three divisions like Diego.

 

Plus, you are forgetting that Deigo won the first TUF tournament. That counts tremendously because Diego was basically a pioneer for the sport in that regard. Thusly, is P4P better than BJ Penn.[/quote']

 

Oh my mistake after thinking about it I can now see you are correct.

[KozureOkami]

Yes!

[shinsplint]

P_P FTW.

 

He strikes when you least expect it.

[MABFanForLife]

P_P FTW.

 

He strikes when you least expect it.

 

With all the power of a Jake Shield's punch.

[Pessimist_Pete]

Key wins don't mean **** compared to winning titles in two divisions' date=' a feat no one besides Randy Couture has accomplished in the UFC.

 

As for winning the first TUF tournament? Sure. I'll give him some credit for that, but the only fighter to have really done anything after their TUF days was Rashad and Forrest (though his career is starting to decline quickly). No one else from the TUF series has really made a huge impact on the current MMA world. So I don't give that much merit.

 

Your attempts at trying to make Diego's legacy greater than Penn's is met with utter failure.[/quote']

 

You are missing the point. Deigo dominated the TUF tournament at 180 lbs (which is a very heavy weight). In fact, a man named Anderson Silva currently holds that title (you might have heard of him?), so that should tell you how hard that division is. Yet Diego still won.

 

then he dominated the welter weight divisions for years, until he lost to Koscheck and Fitch (compare those loses to BJ's loses to Edgar two times in a row).

 

then he went on the rule the LW division before he lost to BJ.

 

Thusly, Diego is P4P better than BJ Penn. Maybe Diego isnt better than Penn straight up in the LW division on one night, but he is P4P better, as explained above.

 

discuss further thanx

[MABFanForLife]

You are missing the point. Deigo dominated the TUF tournament at 180 lbs (which is a very heavy weight). In fact' date=' a man named Anderson Silva currently holds that title (you might have heard of him?), so that should tell you how hard that division is. Yet Diego still won.

 

then he dominated the welter weight divisions for years, until he lost to Koscheck and Fitch (compare those loses to BJ's loses to Edgar two times in a row).

 

then he went on the rule the LW division before he lost to BJ.

 

Thusly, Diego is P4P better than BJ Penn. Maybe Diego isnt better than Penn straight up in the LW division on one night, but he is P4P better, as explained above.

 

discuss further thanx[/quote']

 

Just because a dude goes from a large weight to a smaller weight doesn't make him an awesome fighter. Most of the dudes that Diego beat weren't really that good. It was only his LW wins and his win over Paulo Thiago that I give any sort of credit for.

 

BJ's two wins over Matt Hughes are more significant that most of Diego's record.

[Pessimist_Pete]

Just because a dude goes from a large weight to a smaller weight doesn't make him an awesome fighter. Most of the dudes that Diego beat weren't really that good. It was only his LW wins and his win over Paulo Thiago that I give any sort of credit for.

 

BJ's two wins over Matt Hughes are more significant that most of Diego's record.

 

So you are saying that when Diego Sanchez beat Kenny Florian (who has fought for the title four times if I am not mistaken) for the TUF tournament crown, that win was not significant? Diego dominated all three divisions pretty much. Penn hasnt ever done that. Period. Discuss further thanx

[PuppetsAndHolyWars]

So you are saying that when Diego Sanchez beat Kenny Florian (who has fought for the title four times if I am not mistaken) for the TUF tournament crown' date=' that win was not significant? Diego dominated all three divisions pretty much. Penn hasnt ever done that. Period. Discuss further thanx[/quote']

 

UFC 107 END of DISCUSSION

[Pessimist_Pete]

UFC 107 END of DISCUSSION

 

UFC 107 proved nothing about the P4P rankings of Sanchez over Penn.

[MABFanForLife]

UFC 107 proved nothing about the P4P rankings of Sanchez over Penn.

 

So if Edgar came up to WW and defeated GSP, that wouldn't technically make Edgar the p4p #2 fighter in MMA?

[PuppetsAndHolyWars]

UFC 107 proved nothing about the P4P rankings of Sanchez over Penn.

 

Yea besides proving Diego Sanchez cant beat Bj penn

[jayzee]

Penn is just better in my opinion. Diego loss to Hathaway who is someone BJ Penn would have murdered.

[Pessimist_Pete]

So if Edgar came up to WW and defeated GSP' date=' that wouldn't technically make Edgar the p4p #2 fighter in MMA?[/quote']

 

No. Edgar might actually move down in the p4p rankings if that happened because GSP would also fall on those rankings, and that would push Edgar down with him

[PuppetsAndHolyWars]

No. Edgar might actually move down in the p4p rankings if that happened because GSP would also fall on those rankings' date=' and that would push Edgar down with him[/quote']

 

your logic is freakin incredible

[Pessimist_Pete]

your logic is freakin incredible

 

I guess you have no clue what p4p means. Let me explain it one more time: DIEGO WON THE FREAKEN TUF TOURNAMENT AT 185lbs. Thus, after dominating the welter weight and light weight divisions, he is p4p better than Penn.

[PuppetsAndHolyWars]

I guess you have no clue what p4p means. Let me explain it one more time: DIEGO WON THE FREAKEN TUF TOURNAMENT AT 185lbs. Thus' date=' after dominating the welter weight and light weight divisions, he is p4p better than Penn.[/quote']

 

Dominated but never champion. I guess you don't know what that means since the nightmare never been one except winning the Ultimate fighter.

[CorporalClegg]

Diego Sanchez is a can...

[Pessimist_Pete]

Diego Sanchez is a can...

 

a can of p4p greatness

[Fighting101]

So you are saying that when Diego Sanchez beat Kenny Florian (who has fought for the title four times if I am not mistaken) for the TUF tournament crown' date=' that win was not significant? Diego dominated all three divisions pretty much. Penn hasnt ever done that. Period. Discuss further thanx[/quote']

 

And if I'm not mistaken BJ Penn beat Florian at his natural weight at 155lbs, and you keep bringing up the fact that Diego has fought at other weight classes, first of all he was definitely too small for 185lbs and thats why he moved down to 170lbs, then after Greg Jackson took on GSP at his camp and Diego knew he wouldnt be able to beat him so he moved to another gym and down to 155lbs, then wins two decisions against two fighters that Florian finished easy, then catches the worst beating he has gotten ever in his career by BJ Penn. Penn has held a title at both WW and LW, Diego has held 0 titles, thus making BJ the better fighter "P4P"

[silentson]

[Fighting101]

 

Thats when BJ Penn opened a portal of blood over Diego's face

[ogmmafan]

Its simple actually. Diego has key wins in three different divisions:

 

1. He recently beat Paulo Thiago (at 170 lbs).

2. Before that' date=' he beat Guida and Joe Daddy (at [b']155 lbs[/b])

3. Before that, he beat Karo, Diaz, and Riggs (at 170 lbs)

4. And before that, he beat Kenny Florian (at 180 lbs, and he took home the TUF tournament crown)

 

In my book, what Diego has done in his career is way more impressive than what guys like BJ Penn have done, because he only fought in two weight classes, whereas Diego has fought in three weight classes. Why then is Diego not listed in more of the pound-for-pound lists on the mma websites?

 

Let me know if you agree or disagree, and discuss thanx.

 

So BJ destroys Diego, and you say Diego's career is more impressive then BJ's?? I think thats like an oxymoron or something.

[reapers_bane]

Its simple actually. Diego has key wins in three different divisions:

 

1. He recently beat Paulo Thiago (at 170 lbs).

2. Before that' date=' he beat Guida and Joe Daddy (at [b']155 lbs[/b])

3. Before that, he beat Karo, Diaz, and Riggs (at 170 lbs)

4. And before that, he beat Kenny Florian (at 180 lbs, and he took home the TUF tournament crown)

 

In my book, what Diego has done in his career is way more impressive than what guys like BJ Penn have done, because he only fought in two weight classes, whereas Diego has fought in three weight classes. Why then is Diego not listed in more of the pound-for-pound lists on the mma websites?

 

Let me know if you agree or disagree, and discuss thanx.

 

i strongly disagree so does BJ and he got mad and kicked Diego

 

[ogmmafan]

BJ does not have any key wins in three divisions like Diego. Plus' date=' you are forgetting that Deigo won the first TUF tournament. That counts tremendously because Diego was basically a pioneer for the sport in that regard. Thusly, is P4P better than BJ Penn.[/quote']

 

Haha! Hilarious...BJ Penn was a Legend before anyone ever heard of Diego Sanchez.

[ogmmafan]

UFC 107 proved nothing about the P4P rankings of Sanchez over Penn.

 

DUDE!!! Diego has never beaten a champion in any weight class...he doesnt even qualify to be in the p4p discussion.

[Riot_Act101]

lol pete...why?? LMAO

[Pessimist_Pete]

Because it is the truth. Slice it and dice it however you want, but Sanchez is p4p better than Penn.

 

How many TUF tournaments has Penn won? Zero.

 

How many times has Penn beat Paulo Thiago, Karo, Diaz, and Guida? Zero.

 

How many times has Penn beaten Kenny Florian at 185lbs? You guessed it, zero.

[wingzero8717]

Its simple actually. Diego has key wins in three different divisions:

 

1. He recently beat Paulo Thiago (at 170 lbs).

2. Before that' date=' he beat Guida and Joe Daddy (at [b']155 lbs[/b])

3. Before that, he beat Karo, Diaz, and Riggs (at 170 lbs)

4. And before that, he beat Kenny Florian (at 180 lbs, and he took home the TUF tournament crown)

 

In my book, what Diego has done in his career is way more impressive than what guys like BJ Penn have done, because he only fought in two weight classes, whereas Diego has fought in three weight classes. Why then is Diego not listed in more of the pound-for-pound lists on the mma websites?

 

Let me know if you agree or disagree, and discuss thanx.

 

BJ Penn has held titles in two different UFC weight classes something only Penn, Randy Couture managed too achieve. Not too mention BJ Penn has beaten great opponents like Gomi, Hughes, Florian, Sanchez, Stevenson, Sherk, Matt Serra. Sanchez has never beaten opponents the caliber that Penn has and he never will. Weather BJ fights at lightweight or welterweight Diego will never have a chance against him.

[Jimz]

thread of legends

 

PP's infinite wisdom is obivous.