jayzee Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Will the next 5 years be the years of the striker? With everyone learning takedown defense and wrestlers learning how to strike because of this, will the Strikers day finally come? My examples are Gerald Harris vs that Falco (or whatever his name is). BJ Penn vs Matt Hughes Brock vs Cain velasquez. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenColbert Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 yeah I think it will.. and I hope it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRunMan Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Sure would be nice to see more "Fighting" in the UFC. But i dont believe that one discipline will dominate, there are too many strategests and gameplaners out there. Too many cagehuggers and LnP. Look at the hype that DW has been giving that pillowfisted blanket jake shields.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xshitheadx Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Will the next 5 years be the years of the striker? With everyone learning takedown defense and wrestlers learning how to strike because of this' date=' will the Strikers day finally come? My examples are Gerald Harris vs that Falco (or whatever his name is). BJ Penn vs Matt Hughes Brock vs Cain velasquez. Thoughts?[/quote'] No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doobster Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 the next 5 years???? there is always going to be a mixture of disciplines.. it's called mixed martial arts for a reason. NO. it won't be. Stop paying attention to the ground aspect.. and enjoy the WHOLE fight. ya meathead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristufa Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Wrestling being dominant is just a fad, very much like BJJ was back in the day. We'll just hope striking takes a more prominent role soon, so that "Sprawl n' Brawl" type of battles are the only types that they would be exhibited in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raoullduke Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 hopefully over the next five years mixed martial arts wil stay as it is, MIXED. with some people finding success through all aspects of the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raoullduke Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Wrestling being dominant is just a fad' date=' very much like BJJ was back in the day.[/b']We'll just hope striking takes a more prominent role soon, so that "Sprawl n' Brawl" type of battles are the only types that they would be exhibited in. oh yeah cuz no one uses BJJ.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristufa Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 oh yeah cuz no one uses BJJ.... What? You need to read deeper my friend. BJJ was seen as the unstoppable art back in the day, much like many see wrestling as now. It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raoullduke Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 What? You need to read deeper my friend.BJJ was seen as the unstoppable art back in the day' date=' much like many see wrestling as now. It happens.[/quote'] at what point back in the day? by about UFC 3 or 4 BJJ deffence was pretty widespread. but everyone trained it because it was good. everyone still trains it cuzz its still good. its not going anywhere, its probably the most consistent element of the sport. just about everyone trains BJJ to one degree or another even if its just deffensive. amateure wrestling pays no money. those guys get out of college and their is no big pay day for them. untill recent years, when they've streamed into MMA as their only option. they aren't going to stop coming. as long as high level wrestlers are continuing to come into the sport wrestling is here to stay. as not only will they be bringing their own wrestling skills everyboddy else is going to have to be working on theirs. face it its here to stay. striking/wrestling/BJJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristufa Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 at what point back in the day? by about UFC 3 or 4 BJJ deffence was pretty widespread. but everyone trained it because it was good. everyone still trains it cuzz its still good. its not going anywhere' date=' its probably the most consistent element of the sport. just about everyone trains BJJ to one degree or another even if its just deffensive.[b'] amateure[/b] wrestling pays no money. those guys get out of college and their is no big pay day for them. untill recent years, when they've streamed into MMA as their only option. they aren't going to stop coming. as long as high level wrestlers are continuing to come into the sport wrestling is here to stay. as not only will they be bringing their own wrestling skills everyboddy else is going to have to be working on theirs. face it its here to stay. striking/wrestling/BJJ Okay, I'm not sure that you get what I'm saying at all. BJJ was seen as THE base for all of MMA before because without it you wouldn't win a fight. Now, wrestling is seen as THE base because if you can take down your opponent and control him you'll be golden. See where I'm going? Sure - better wrestlers will come into the sport but that also means that they will be negating each other with their ability/inability to take the other down. Where does that lead us? With those unable to take the opponent down NEEDING the ability to have high level striking. This is what is referred to as the "Years of the Striker". Couple that with the fact that elite strikers WILL know how to defend against the TD (much like many learned how to defend/apply BJJ although I would in fact consider that simpler), and the future seems exciting. The sport WILL stay mixed, but a certain aspect of it will always been seen as the most dominant at a certain point in time because the focus of those trying to better themselves will need to constantly shift. Get what I'm saying yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raoullduke Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Okay' date=' I'm not sure that you get what I'm saying at all.BJJ was seen as THE base for all of MMA before because without it you wouldn't win a fight. Now, wrestling is seen as THE base because if you can take down your opponent and control him you'll be golden. See where I'm going? Sure - better wrestlers will come into the sport but that also means that they will be negating each other with their ability/inability to take the other down. Where does that lead us? With those unable to take the opponent down NEEDING the ability to have high level striking. This is what is referred to as the "Years of the Striker". Couple that with the fact that elite strikers WILL know how to defend against the TD (much like many learned how to defend/apply BJJ although I would in fact consider that simpler), and the future seems exciting. The sport WILL stay mixed, but a certain aspect of it will always been seen as the most dominant at a certain point in time because the focus of those trying to better themselves will need to constantly shift. Get what I'm saying yet?[/quote'] i get what your saying. i just don't agree with it. elite level wrestlers will always take down fighters who don't come from that same background. GSP is the exception that proves the rule. people are constantly going to be streaming into the sport from various disciplins. and when an elite striker faces and elite wrestler their each going to try to do waht they do best. and imo wresters will always have an advantage as they decide where the fight happens. yeah at times there will be more strikers than wrestlers or more wrestlers than strikers. but i don't think their will ever be a time when someone isn't dominating with wrestling. to be honest i think we're more likely over the coming years to see an evoloution of wrestling to be more of a fight finisher. by combining it more efficiantly with BJJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raoullduke Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 and using cain as an example of striking isn't all the accurate. sure he beat brock with striking but that because they were evenly matched as far as wrestling go's and cain had a huge advantage in the striking. against JDS you can bet your balls cain is going to be taking him down or trying to right off the bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristufa Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 i get what your saying. i just don't agree with it. elite level wrestlers will always take down fighters who don't come from that same background. GSP is the exception that proves the rule. people are constantly going to be streaming into the sport from various disciplins. and when an elite striker faces and elite wrestler their each going to try to do waht they do best. and imo wresters will always have an advantage as they decide where the fight happens. yeah at times there will be more strikers than wrestlers or more wrestlers than strikers. but i don't think their will ever be a time whensomeone isn't dominating with wrestling. to be honest i think we're more likely over the coming years to see an evoloution of wrestling to be more of a fight finisher. by combining it more efficiantly with BJJ. Ahhh fair enough. The future is full of hypotheticals of course And to be honest more finished fights is all anyone really wants to see. A refinement of high-level BJJ with high-level wrestling always stands as the possible future mold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raoullduke Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Ahhh fair enough.The future is full of hypotheticals of course And to be honest more finished fights is all anyone really wants to see. A refinement of high-level BJJ with high-level wrestling always stands as the possible future mold. thats it. wrestlers come in from NCAA wrestling and the first thing you here is how their working on their striking. **** that go and master every submission under the sun. BJJ players as well should be training wrestling more than striking. BJJ takedowns suck ***. demian maia all the submissions skills in the world but struggels to take some people down. chael sonnen can take down guys all week but can't finish a fight. imagine if a cross polination of the two had fought silva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristufa Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 thats it. wrestlers come in from NCAA wrestling and the first thing you here is how their working on their striking. **** that go and master every submission under the sun. BJJ players as well should be training wrestling more than striking. BJJ takedowns suck ***. demian maia all the submissions skills in the world but struggels to take some people down. chael sonnen can take down guys all week but can't finish a fight. imagine if a cross polination of the two had fought silva. Haha ahh of course. That would be possibly the greatest fighter to ever live on God's green earth. I think we should advise Maia and Sonnen that they should have babies with each other. Their choice on who carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranga Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 The next 5 years will be the years of the MMA fighter /Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIMBOB Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 The next 5 years will be the years of the MMA fighter /Thread +1 The style to dominate in the future of MMA is the one who mixes the range of MA's best. Basically the complete disappearance of one trick ponies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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