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We have all found out the Brock Lesnar remedy, hit him hard in the face with your best shot and he'll crumble like stale bread, but before we recently found this out, whether you would like to admit it or not, we all thought Lesnar was nearly invincible due to his freakish size and power and his NCAA wrestling pedigree. So thinking back to the days where Lesnar was viewed as this unbeatable monster I'd like to ask, If Lesnar could take shots and absorb them instead of running and getting into the feable position, if he could absorb shots as good as the best of them, knowing that that is his biggest weakness, if he can overcome his fear of being hit, WOULD LESNAR BE AN UNBEATABLE FORCE due to his freakish size and power and great wrestling pedigree?

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We have all found out the Brock Lesnar remedy' date=' hit him hard in the face with your best shot and he'll crumble like stale bread, but before we recently found this out,[b'] whether you would like to admit it or not, we all thought Lesnar was nearly invincible[/b] due to his freakish size and power and his NCAA wrestling pedigree. So thinking back to the days where Lesnar was viewed as this unbeatable monster I'd like to ask, If Lesnar could take shots and absorb them instead of running and getting into the feable position, if he could absorb shots as good as the best of them, knowing that that is his biggest weakness, if he can overcome his fear of being hit, WOULD LESNAR BE AN UNBEATABLE FORCE due to his freakish size and power and great wrestling pedigree?

 

No, no, and no.

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I'm not sure. Cain was able to stuff a couple of Brock's takedown attempts and when he did get taken down, he got back to his feet immediately. Now, judging by the fact that he has superior cardio and superior stand up to Brock, he could well have boxed his way to a UD win, even if Brock could take punches like the best.

 

I disagree that we thought of Lesnar as an unbeatable force. I know I certainly didn't. He has size and wrestling but his actual takedown attempt to sucessful takedown ratio is pretty poor.

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I'm not sure. Cain was able to stuff a couple of Brock's takedown attempts and when he did get taken down' date=' he got back to his feet immediately. Now, judging by the fact that he has superior cardio and superior stand up to Brock, he could well have boxed his way to a [b']UD win[/b], even if Brock could take punches like the best.

 

I disagree that we thought of Lesnar as an unbeatable force. I know I certainly didn't. He has size and wrestling but his actual takedown attempt to sucessful takedown ratio is pretty poor.

 

Brock would have fallen to the ground exhausted Rolles Gracie style long before a UD was possible. Not only is Lesnar completely afraid of being punched in the face, his gas tank is also very suspect after the Cain fight.

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We have all found out the Brock Lesnar remedy' date=' hit him hard in the face with your best shot and he'll crumble like stale bread, but before we recently found this out, whether you would like to admit it or not, we all thought Lesnar was nearly invincible due to his freakish size and power and his NCAA wrestling pedigree. So thinking back to the days where Lesnar was viewed as this unbeatable monster I'd like to ask, If Lesnar could take shots and absorb them instead of running and getting into the feable position, if he could absorb shots as good as the best of them, knowing that that is his biggest weakness, if he can overcome his fear of being hit, WOULD LESNAR BE AN UNBEATABLE FORCE due to his freakish size and power and great wrestling pedigree?[/quote']

 

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Brock would have fallen to the ground exhausted Rolles Gracie style long before a UD was possible. Not only is Lesnar completely afraid of being punched in the face' date=' his gas tank is also very suspect after the Cain fight.[/quote']

 

I'm not sure if he gassed or if he was just completely dazed from being hit so much. He went three rounds with Herring and seemed to be alright, although that was a lot less demanding than the Velasquez fight.

 

With all his muscle mass though, it would make sense for him to have some serious issues with cardio.

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I'm not sure if he gassed or if he was just completely dazed from being hit so much. He went three rounds with Herring and seemed to be alright' date=' although that was a lot less demanding than the Velasquez fight.

 

With all his muscle mass though, it would make sense for him to have some serious issues with cardio.[/quote']

 

With Herring he was able to take him down and rest while in top position. With Cain he had to put out constant effort, and he was quickly exhausted. He looked like Rolles Gracie when he did that spin.

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Wow stupid poll. He is a good fighter. Not great. But good. He is still learning and i think if he can take a punch without turning his back like a pussie (i dont even turn my back.. yea pretty sad for brock being a viking like monster mammoth)

 

If he learns to take a punch he could make a good run at his previously stolen title from the MONSTER CAIN!!!

 

i always knew cain would win the UFC HW belt. since he beat kongo ive been a fan. And since he won the title (i knew he would) I know that he will never ever lose his belt again. (im predicting around 5-10 defenses)

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With Herring he was able to take him down and rest while in top position. With Cain he had to put out constant effort' date=' and he was quickly exhausted. He looked like Rolles Gracie when he did that spin.[/quote']

 

Yeah I think he exerted more energy in the Velasquez fight than he did in the entire Herring fight. I thought the little breakdancing move came about because he wasn't enjoying getting hit.

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Wow stupid poll. He is a good fighter. Not great. But good. He is still learning and i think if he can take a punch without turning his back like a pussie (i dont even turn my back.. yea pretty sad for brock being a viking like monster mammoth)

 

If he learns to take a punch he could make a good run at his previously stolen title from the MONSTER CAIN!!!

 

i always knew cain would win the UFC HW belt. since he beat kongo ive been a fan. And since he won the title (i knew he would) I know that he will never ever lose his belt again. (im predicting around 5-10 defenses)

 

You know he's fighting JDS right? just saying

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Yeah I think he exerted more energy in the Velasquez fight than he did in the entire Herring fight. I thought the little breakdancing move came about because he wasn't enjoying getting hit.

 

It looked like a glancing uppercut and when he started backwards he almost just fell down out of exhaustion.

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Yeah I think he exerted more energy in the Velasquez fight than he did in the entire Herring fight. I thought the little breakdancing move came about because he wasn't enjoying getting hit.

 

How so, I mean constant takedowns and gnp for three rounds exerts more energy than a couple of flying knees, a take down, and eating shots the entire one round. I don't see how you think he used the most energy in the Cain fight. I don;t think he gassed out, he was just punch drunk.

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If he can learn to

 

strike

take hits

fight off his back

remain calm

and maybe got a BJJ black belt then yeah, UNSTOPPABLE.

 

His best assest is his size he is just a dude that is supposed to weight around 265 instead of guys like Reem who can bulk themselves up to get there.

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How so' date=' I mean constant takedowns and gnp for three rounds exerts more energy than a couple of flying knees, a take down, and eating shots the entire one round.[b'] I don't see how you think he used the most energy in the Cain fight[/b]. I don;t think he gassed out, he was just punch drunk.

 

Overall he used more energy in the Herring fight. But he was able to keep Herring down after each take down, and he is able to get some rest at that point. With Cain, he was grappling the entire time, and constantly expended energy in a short time frame.

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Overall he used more energy in the Herring fight. But he was able to keep Herring down after each take down' date=' and he is able to get some rest at that point. With Cain, he was grappling the entire time, and constantly expended energy in a short time frame.[/quote']

 

He threw a flying knee, a couple of punches, and landed a takedown that's it. Their was no over exertion of enrgy from his part. He did way more than that in his Herring fight, Couture fight, and Mir 2 fight and didnt look gassed. Again he was just punch drunk.

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We have all found out the Brock Lesnar remedy' date=' hit him hard in the face with your best shot and he'll crumble like stale bread, but before we recently found this out, whether you would like to admit it or not, we all thought Lesnar was nearly invincible due to his freakish size and power and his NCAA wrestling pedigree. So thinking back to the days where Lesnar was viewed as this unbeatable monster I'd like to ask, If Lesnar could take shots and absorb them instead of running and getting into the feable position, if he could absorb shots as good as the best of them, knowing that that is his biggest weakness, if he can overcome his fear of being hit, WOULD LESNAR BE AN UNBEATABLE FORCE due to his freakish size and power and great wrestling pedigree?[/quote']

 

Just had 1 look at your list of favourite fighters.... Then didnt bother to read the dribble you were going to spill...

 

You must be like 15 tops...

 

Fanboy much ?

 

And you forgot to add Fador and Bork to your fav list to complete the clean sweep.

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Just had 1 look at your list of favourite fighters.... Then didnt bother to read the dribble you were going to spill...

 

You must be like 15 tops...

 

Fanboy much ?

 

And you forgot to add Fador and Bork to your fav list to complete the clean sweep.

 

LOL dumbf/uck actually im 19, and what's wrong with my fav. list..if your gonna attack me, make it good. Don't be a retard and make stupid assumptions, I guess you can't help being a retarded ****stick, afterall that's just who you are.

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Just had 1 look at your list of favourite fighters.... Then didnt bother to read the dribble you were going to spill...

 

You must be like 15 tops...

 

Fanboy much ?

 

And you forgot to add Fador and Bork to your fav list to complete the clean sweep.

 

im sorry i like anderson, GSP, machida, brock

 

am i a bad person for having this?

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He threw a flying knee' date=' a couple of punches, [b']and landed a takedown that's it[/b]. Their was no over exertion of enrgy from his part. He did way more than that in his Herring fight, Couture fight, and Mir 2 fight and didnt look gassed. Again he was just punch drunk.

 

He landed 2 takedowns, both of which were purely wasted energy because Cain got right back up both times. Grappling and the type of takedowns Lesnar went for require a ton of energy. Against Herring and Mir, he was able to rest while in top position after the takedowns, against Cain he was not.

 

As far as being punch drunk goes, he hadn't been hit with many/any big shots at that point (the uppercut immediately before the spin looked like a glancing blow) so it is difficult for me to believe that he was punch drunk.

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He landed 2 takedowns' date=' both of which were purely wasted energy because Cain got right back up both times. Grappling and the type of takedowns Lesnar went for require a ton of energy. Against Herring and Mir, he was able to rest while in top position after the takedowns, against Cain he was not.

 

As far as being punch drunk goes, he hadn't been hit with many/any big shots at that point (the uppercut immediately before the spin looked like a glancing blow) so it is difficult for me to believe that he was punch drunk.[/quote']

 

I guess you make a good point, but still whenever he got Herring to the ground he never really got much time to rest because whenever he tried to, Herring would try to get up or strike back so he was almost constantly working. And he still looked ready for two more rounds at the end of the fight. I don't believe cardio is much of an issue for Brock, remember this guy was a WWE wrestler, you'd need some pretty good cardio to go through the things those guys go through.

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We have all found out the Brock Lesnar remedy' date=' hit him hard in the face with your best shot and he'll crumble like stale bread, but before we recently found this out, whether you would like to admit it or not, we all thought Lesnar was nearly invincible due to his freakish size and power and his NCAA wrestling pedigree. So thinking back to the days where Lesnar was viewed as this unbeatable monster I'd like to ask, If Lesnar could take shots and absorb them instead of running and getting into the feable position, if he could absorb shots as good as the best of them, knowing that that is his biggest weakness, if he can overcome his fear of being hit, WOULD LESNAR BE AN UNBEATABLE FORCE due to his freakish size and power and great wrestling pedigree?[/quote']

 

carwin is bigger and stronger

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I didn't even bother to read what anyone else has posted' date=' just let me ask this; who the **** with half a brain has ever thought Brock Lesnar was going to be "invincible"? He got tapped in his first UFC fight and only looked good in a fight once and even that fight he showed some weakness.[/quote']

 

You'd be suprised, just go look at some of the threads from three or four months ago and you'd see all these ****s that have all seemingly jumped off his train onto the "next best thing". You'd see threads like "Brock would destroy Fedor" and "Lesnar is the best UFC heavyweight Champion of all time". Now all of a sudden everybody seems to believe Brock wouldn't even be able to spank a child.

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You'd be suprised' date=' just go look at some of the threads from three or four months ago and you'd see all these ****s that have all seemingly jumped off his train onto the "next best thing". You'd see threads like "Brock would destroy Fedor" and "Lesnar is the best UFC heavyweight Champion of all time". Now all of a sudden everybody seems to believe Brock wouldn't even be able to spank a child.[/quote']

 

Besides his extreme fan base I dunno who thought that. I mean some thought he would be a good fighter but, not ****in' invisible.

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And who walked out the victor again?

 

And no Carwin is not bigger and stronger.

 

yes he is. he threw him around in the corner like a ragdoll

 

 

gassing is another story

 

 

 

 

id be willing to bet my life carwin has more brute strength

 

 

they're the same weight but carwin's is 2 inches shorter therefore his muscle mass is more concentrated.

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We have all found out the Brock Lesnar remedy' date=' hit him hard in the face with your best shot and he'll crumble like stale bread, but before we recently found this out, whether you would like to admit it or not, we all thought Lesnar was nearly invincible due to his freakish size and power and his NCAA wrestling pedigree. So thinking back to the days where Lesnar was viewed as this unbeatable monster I'd like to ask, If Lesnar could take shots and absorb them instead of running and getting into the [b']feable position[/b], if he could absorb shots as good as the best of them, knowing that that is his biggest weakness, if he can overcome his fear of being hit, WOULD LESNAR BE AN UNBEATABLE FORCE due to his freakish size and power and great wrestling pedigree?

 

For one thing "feable" isn't a word, it's feeble.

Also there is no such thing as a "feeble position"... it's called the fetal position.

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yes he is. he threw him around in the corner like a ragdoll

 

 

gassing is another story

 

 

 

 

id be willing to bet my life carwin has more brute strength

 

 

they're the same weight but carwin's is 2 inches shorter therefore his muscle mass is more concentrated.

 

Dude, he didn't "throw anybody around" he just dropped him with punches and unleashed GNP fury on his mug, there was no "throwing around" going on there. And this is a pointless argument, unless you know what they both benchpress, we will never know who's stronger. What I do know is that Lesnar is by far the better athlete.

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LOL dumbf/uck actually im 19' date=' and what's wrong with my fav. list..if your gonna attack me, make it good. Don't be a retard and make stupid assumptions, I guess you can't help being a retarded ****stick, afterall that's just who you are.[/quote']

 

By you saying, that i can safely assume you have only been watching MMA for a whole 6 months tops...., seeing as YOU know NOTHING....

 

Now then...crawl back in your hole and cuddle up to you stepdad again...

 

Oh and 19? hahaha

 

Get off your stepmums rented computer and just go and end yourself...

 

Dam noob....

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By you saying' date=' that i can safely assume you have only been watching MMA for a whole 6 months tops...., seeing as YOU know NOTHING....

 

Now then...crawl back in your hole and cuddle up to you stepdad again...

 

Oh and 19? hahaha

 

Get off your stepmums rented computer and just go and end yourself...

 

Dam noob....[/quote']

 

There we go again making stupid assumptions. So I'm guessing your thinking you're the sh/ it with your 9000+ post, all that shows is that your a fat lazy slob that sits in his stepmums basement eating pizza all day typing away at the only life he has, the internet because you have no social life. See I can make stupid assumptions just like mr ****stick over here, but then again it might not be an assumption, you might actually be a fat no life slob.

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There we go again making stupid assumptions. So I'm guessing your thinking you're the sh/ it with your 9000+ post' date=' all that shows is that your a fat lazy slob that sits in his stepmums basement eating pizza all day typing away at the only life he has, the internet because you have no social life. See I can make stupid assumptions just like mr ****stick over here, but then again it might not be an assumption, you might actually be a fat no life slob.[/quote']

 

We have ourselves a new forum fanboy ..... ^^^

 

You do realise YOU are a laughing stock ?

 

Do all of us a favor... stop sleeping with your stepmum, get a job, lose some weight and rid yourself of this forum....

 

Or you could always go 1 step further and drink some arsenic....

 

You would be doing a few people a favor...

 

Good riddance lil kid.

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Fanboy much ?

 

And you forgot to add Fador and Bork to your fav list to complete the clean sweep.

 

Having Fedor would add credibility to that list I reckon.

 

 

 

Yes' date=' the worst kind... (enen worse than a Frenchie)

 

lol[/quote']

 

Damm Bro go easy.

 

 

 

remember this guy was a WWE wrestler' date=' you'd need some pretty good cardio to go through the things those guys go through.[/quote']

 

That was a joke right??

 

 

You'd be suprised' date=' just go look at some of the threads from three or four months ago and you'd see all these ****s that have all seemingly jumped off his train onto the "next best thing". You'd see threads like "Brock would destroy Fedor" and "Lesnar is the best UFC heavyweight Champion of all time". Now all of a sudden everybody seems to believe Brock wouldn't even be able to spank a child.[/quote']

 

Brock is, was and will be a serious opponent, he is one of the most dangerous guys in the division. Everyone gets excess hate and excess love. And anyway hyperbole is much interesting that boring sensible stuff the more knowledgable post.

 

 

Dude' date=' he didn't "throw anybody around" he just dropped him with punches and unleashed GNP fury on his mug, there was no "throwing around" going on there. And this is a pointless argument, unless you know what they both benchpress, we will never know who's stronger. What I do know is that Lesnar is by far the better athlete.[/quote']

 

I do know they did some test for how many times they could bench 220 pounds, Lesnar beat Carwin and fairly considerably if I recall correctly. It was some stats page on them and the only thing Carwin lead in was hand size.

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We have ourselves a new forum fanboy ..... ^^^

 

You do realise YOU are a laughing stock ?

 

Do all of us a favor... stop sleeping with your stepmum' date=' get a job, lose some weight and rid yourself of this forum....

 

Or you could always go 1 step further and drink some arsenic....

 

You would be doing a few people a favor...

 

Good riddance lil kid.[/quote']

 

HAHAHA you're a waste of my time you bum, better yet your a waste of oxygen, why don't you do us all a favor and hold your breathe for 30mins.

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That was a joke right??.

 

 

No actually' date=' fake or not, what those guys do is not the least bit easy, it takes a lot of stamina.

 

 

 

 

I do know they did some test for how many times they could bench 220 pounds, Lesnar beat Carwin and fairly considerably if I recall correctly. It was some stats page on them and the only thing Carwin lead in was hand size.

 

My point exactly, Brock > Carwin, strength wise, size wise, and pure athletisism.

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