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WD_40

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serious discussion i dont want to read kos is going to get annihilated and i dont want to read safe pierre is going to get another greasy UD

 

first, im not a huge fan of either, being an aussie, but second it doesnt make and ****ing sense

 

why would GSP go to the Philipines for a few months and train with freddie roach and pacman, the GOAT of boxing, and the GOAT boxing trainer

 

GSP may not finish, he may fight safe, but i expect him to use his athleticism and speed to take a page out of frankie edgar's book, and stick and move using his improved boxing, while throwing in a random take down here and there

 

if Kos gasses then he may go in for the kill in the later rounds

 

I am expecting GSP to win, only because I believe he has koscheck's number in every part of the game, and i dont believe that Kos' slow motion big right hand will be catching GSP, if it does it will be round 1 or 2 KO for Kos (unlikely)

 

so yeah enough with these ******** threads about GSP preparing to dry **** for 5 rounds, by going to the Philipines to train with Pacquiao

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UMCMMA

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GSP does have KO power. Ask Hughes' date=' Herrion or Sherk[/quote']

 

The fact that he never put any of them to sleep and every time it was with many punches proves that he does not have one punch KO power. Anyone could finish almost anyone if they landed all the punchs Georges did in that fight. Especially the Herron fight, GSP landed dozens of flush on the chin punches and he still barely finished him.

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He has never pulled off a one punch KO though' date=' so to me he doesn't have the clean KO power. For example the Heiron fight was much more to do with the accumulation of clean punches on a rocked fighter.[/quote']

 

I truly hope Kos believes as much in this supposed KO power hype as you all do and keeps this fighting standing. GSP will murdalize him if he does.

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I truly hope Kos believes as much in this supposed KO power hype as you all do and keeps this fighting standing. GSP will murdalize him if he does.

 

So because i beleive that Kos has KO power i have suddenly beleived the UFC's hype??

If i did i would think that Kos had amazing striking and is a "Knock out Artist", just because i think Kos has KO power, which he has proved, don't jump to conclusions that i think he will win.

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UMCMMA

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Its just going to be a lot of talk from Kos...basically an American Dan Hardy. Except Kos will Tap.

 

But I give the Striking to GSP

The BJJ to GSP

The Wrestling is Split

The fight- GSP

 

Break it down a little better

 

 

Striking:

Technique-GSP

speed-GSP

kicks-GSP

power-KOS

 

Wrestling

Experience-KOS (wrestling for a lot longer)

Faster shot- GSP

More powerful shot-KOS (He drives through guys its not a regular double leg)

Technique-GSP

 

 

Jiu Jitsu

Subs-GSP

Defensive-GSP

Grappling- GSP (Guard passing)

Off of their back- GSP

 

 

 

Id have to give this one to GSP

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Break it down a little better

 

 

Striking:

Technique-GSP

speed-GSP

kicks-GSP

power-KOS

 

Wrestling

Experience-KOS (wrestling for a lot longer)

Faster shot- GSP

More powerful shot-KOS (He drives through guys its not a regular double leg)

Technique-GSP

 

 

Jiu Jitsu

Subs-GSP

Defensive-GSP

Grappling- GSP (Guard passing)

Off of their back- GSP

 

 

 

Id have to give this one to GSP

 

I'll Agree to this

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dfwGSP

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Break it down a little better

 

 

Striking:

Technique-GSP

speed-GSP

kicks-GSP

power- GSP

 

Wrestling

Experience-KOS (wrestling for a lot longer)

Faster shot- GSP

More powerful shot-GSP (He drives through guys its not a regular double leg)

Technique-GSP

 

 

Jiu Jitsu

Subs-GSP

Defensive-GSP

Grappling- GSP (Guard passing)

Off of their back- GSP

 

 

 

Id have to give this one to GSP

 

I changed to what I think is true.

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GSP is technically better in every area than Kos IMO' date=' but i can't count Kos out. He is a extremely athletic, powerful wrestler and [b']unlike GSP, Kos has KO power[/b], so he could pull of a huge upset but i don't think its that likely.

 

So, your retarded? GSP's striking as far more dangerous and complete than Kos's. Is it the telegraphed flyswatter right hand or the way he falls down every time he kicks that impressed you?

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Well.. I really think that GSP will win this.

 

His game is a lot more complete. Koscheck's victory can only come from his right hand.. If he lands it he could do some damage but that should come in the early rounds. Once GSP will size his timing it will be over. GSP has too many tools that Kos just doesn't have.

 

GSP's submission game is miles ahead Kos's. He has great kicks and combinations and always carries his hands properly so I would be surprised to see him get caught early.. But it could happen. That's really the only way I see Kos winning.

 

I think people are overplaying this idea that Kos's wrestling will be that much better. And even if GSP himself says it, don't forget that GSP tends to really overrate his opponent's qualities before every fight like if he needed that to make sure he doesn't get ****y and loose in training. He really respects every ounce of skill his opponents has to offer.

 

But if we look at their recent performances.. I mean good while after fighting Kos, GSP fought Fitch. You can bet your *** that Fitch knew what was coming because he saw what happened to Kos. He didn't underestimate GSP. He sure as hell worked his TD defense and his ground game. Grappling is actually all Fitch seems to train.. But he still got dominated again on the ground. So that's what we shouldn't forget. The last time he fought good grapplers, GSP was capable of dominating them as well. It's easy to forget that fact because lately he's faced mostly strikers : Alves and Hardy.

 

But let's also look at this : GSP fought Alves and Hardy. He took them down at will. When I say at will, I mean it. He didn't have any problem taking them down and he even took Alves, a bigger and very athletic WW, down with ease even with an injured groin muscle which required like 6 months of convalescence (serious injury). Hardy got taken down easily and don't forget that Hardy also has some decent grappling (still purple belt in BJJ which isn't bad). GSP did a lot of damage on Alves and attempted many submissions on Hardy which came very close to end the fight.

 

On the other hand, Kos fought Paul Daley : a good striker but really a ****** grappler. Kos was able to take the fight to the ground, but didn't do so as dominantly as GSP did (a couple fails here and there and more work along the fence). Once on the ground, he didn't do much (if any) damage and except for taking the back he didn't do any serious sub attempt..

 

So against comparable styles of opponents, GSP had a better performance. Also don't forget that GSP has been fighting a higher level of competition than Kos has.

 

Also the last but not the least of the elements I wanna bring up is that Kos fought Alves and wasn't able to take the fight to the ground. Just after it, what happened? This same Alves faced GSP and got taken down AT WILL and dominated. That was several months after facing Koscheck and he knew what was coming and that means he had certainly worked on his TD defense and it must've been better than it was against Koscheck.. but where Koscheck failed, GSP prevailed.

 

in conclusion : GSP will win because he's better in every aspect of the game, including wrestling (MMA wrestling..)

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Three people' date=' lol

 

Are you one of the people that believe he TKOed BJ...[/quote']

 

GSP Is a pillow fisted wet blanket

True' date=' Safe Pierre couldnt knock the top off a cream pie.

 

Kos FTW.

Don't worry, he's not into women.

 

You say Krang is into men when YOU are a Safe Pierre bum boy ?

 

Thats a bit rich....

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Furiousmat

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^^^ I'll sum it up for the people that don't want to read..

 

Kos will dismantle GSP in round 3

 

I knew reading the whole was too hard for you.. I mean you could read it but it'd take like 3 hours and you'd need your mom to help you out so... it's ok kid. Don't worry about it. I wouldn't want you to spend too much time in here reading my posts and ending up failing your 2nd attempt at the 5th grade.

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True' date=' Safe Pierre couldnt knock the top off a cream pie.

 

Kos FTW.

 

 

You say Krang is into men when YOU are a Safe Pierre bum boy ?

 

Thats a bit rich....[/quote']

 

so shin.....i was thinking for our sig bet lets make the rule that the fight has to be finished.....if it goes to judges the bet is off......how does that sound to you?

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GSP has very underrated striking. Oh wow he got caught one time. That doesn't mean his striking is bad or even mediocre. GSP can beat Kos on the feet, he can beat him grappling and he can submit him, Kos has 'Matt Serra chance' which is still a chance (worked for Matt Serra anyway) but a very small chance.

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what is it with the Aussie retarded mafia.All they do all day is bash GSP they're like the forum KKK' date=' as soon as somone mentions GSP they just jump and call him gay and greasy and safe and......that's it.[/quote']

 

We are more like the FFP

 

***k french people, lol

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Bottom line:

 

Koscheck hasnt proven enough in his technique, progression as a fighter, and quality of opponents, that hes going to win against GSP.

 

Since the fight with GSP, Koscheck beat up some nobodies, until receiving his own *** by Alves. Which is not to knock on Koscheck at all, he took that fight on short notice(not too short, and Koscheck is a full time fighter), and Alves is a handful for anyone. But since that fight, Koscheck has retreated more to his wrestling, even more than GSP has since his Serra loss(he picked apart Serra in the rematch, beat fitch everywhere in the octagon, and dropped Alves).

 

While this retreat is probably not so much a strategy in being scared, but a good move in his career. He has shown he cant hang with the best punch for punch(ask Thiago), and his wrestling is too good to just ignore. The idea of being the next chuck liddell went out the window when Liddell started getting smashed fight in and fight out due to his lack of defense.

 

But even with this focused Koscheck, he entered the WW picture after GSP had beaten just about everyone, and it was about time for him to do lap 2 on the circuit. Koscheck had a nice little win streak(even if its on over hyped bums), and Kos just happened to be first in GSPs 2nd go at the division. Couple that with Koschecks brash personality(if you want to call his weak attempts to get under peoples skin that) and an easy TUF match up. We have ourselves a marketed fight, not an earned fight.

 

Another thing people might forget, is even though GSP and Koscheck have fought once before, it wasnt for the title. This will be Koschecks first championship fight. Where as GSP will be fighting in his 9th Championship fight.

 

Here is the matchup

 

BJJ=GSP

Wrestling=GSP

Grappling=GSP

Athleticism =GSP

Chin=GSP

Kicks=GSP

Hands=GSP(maybe you can make the argument Kos has power, but youd have to think if GSP threw technique out the window, and just went for haymakers all day, he would KO guys too)

Stamina=GSP

Experience=GSP

Momentum=GSP

 

 

When your only chance given to you by the experts and public is "hey, its a fight, and anything can happen"...your doing something wrong.

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Bottom line:

 

Koscheck hasnt proven enough in his technique' date=' progression as a fighter, and quality of opponents, that hes going to win against GSP.

 

Since the fight with GSP, Koscheck beat up some nobodies, until receiving his own *** by Alves. Which is not to knock on Koscheck at all, he took that fight on short notice(not too short, and Koscheck is a full time fighter), and Alves is a handful for anyone. But since that fight, Koscheck has retreated more to his wrestling, even more than GSP has since his Serra loss(he picked apart Serra in the rematch, beat fitch everywhere in the octagon, and dropped Alves).

 

While this retreat is probably not so much a strategy in being scared, but a good move in his career. He has shown he cant hang with the best punch for punch(ask Thiago), and his wrestling is too good to just ignore. The idea of being the next chuck liddell went out the window when Liddell started getting smashed fight in and fight out due to his lack of defense.

 

But even with this focused Koscheck, he entered the WW picture after GSP had beaten just about everyone, and it was about time for him to do lap 2 on the circuit. Koscheck had a nice little win streak(even if its on over hyped bums), and Kos just happened to be first in GSPs 2nd go at the division. Couple that with Koschecks brash personality(if you want to call his weak attempts to get under peoples skin that) and an easy TUF match up. We have ourselves a marketed fight, not an earned fight.

 

Another thing people might forget, is even though GSP and Koscheck have fought once before, it wasnt for the title. This will be Koschecks first championship fight. Where as GSP will be fighting in his 9th Championship fight.

 

Here is the matchup

 

BJJ=GSP

Wrestling=GSP

Grappling=GSP

Athleticism =GSP

Chin=GSP

Kicks=GSP

Hands=GSP(maybe you can make the argument Kos has power, but youd have to think if GSP threw technique out the window, and just went for haymakers all day, he would KO guys too)

Stamina=GSP

Experience=GSP

Momentum=GSP

 

 

When your only chance given to you by the experts and public is "hey, its a fight, and anything can happen"...your doing something wrong.[/quote']

 

this.

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serious discussion i dont want to read kos is going to get annihilated and i dont want to read safe pierre is going to get another greasy UD

 

first' date=' im not a huge fan of either, being an aussie, but second it doesnt make and ****ing sense

 

why would GSP go to the Philipines for a few months and train with freddie roach and pacman, the GOAT of boxing, and the GOAT boxing trainer

 

GSP may not finish, he may fight safe, but i expect him to use his athleticism and speed to take a page out of frankie edgar's book, and stick and move using his improved boxing, while throwing in a random take down here and there

 

if Kos gasses then he may go in for the kill in the later rounds

 

I am expecting GSP to win, only because I believe he has koscheck's number in every part of the game, and i dont believe that Kos' slow motion big right hand will be catching GSP, if it does it will be round 1 or 2 KO for Kos (unlikely)

 

so yeah enough with these ******** threads about GSP preparing to dry **** for 5 rounds, by going to the Philipines to train with Pacquiao[/quote']

 

U sir need to grow up , u seriously mad only because GSP is a great fighter .

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