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NickTF

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no way jose' > same ole same ole

... the content was leaked last week > investments-investments-investments

 

The current president is a great speaker so if you want to hear a great speech well this is about all you'll get in my opinion. The guy can talk but talk is just talk, not that he is the only president guilty of this.

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LT_BJJ

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I was watching until Obama did his whole "we have to live within our means" thing. The dude has spent like a drunken sailor with one day let to live.

 

It's kinda of like a serial rapist coming to court with pink bow for breast cancer awareness.

As Ronald Reagan once said "To the Sailors credit, at least its their own money"

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KINGnoob

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Is anyone here as completely amused as me when Obama said to Freeze and CUT spending...

 

LMAO lolololol

 

oh man thats funny. spend trillions, then freeze it for 5 years, then cut it.

 

Pure brillance, let me tell ya.

 

In other news Herman Cain is going to throw his hat in to the ring, and let me tell ya hes the vote.

 

http://hermancain.com/

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Kristufa

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Canadian here - watched the whole thing.

Obama just repeated the same thing as the past 2 years. Although I do believe he will retain office next year - his new move to appear "more in the center" kind of annoyed me. He acted just like a liberal in the U.S and talked without wanting to offend anyone - no spine at all. His new plans to make public-private sector deals have proven NOT to work in the past, so I don't know why he even brought that up. The only parts of his speech that really appealed to me were cutting military spending, proceeding with the health care bill, and increasing investment in infrastructure and education.

 

As for the Republican response - Michele Bachmann is a moron so I'm not going to say anything about the "Tea Party Response". Her rhetoric not only appeared aggressive and confrontational - it was plain ignorant. As for Rep. Paul Ryan, I appreciate his very mature response. Although he repeated the same message over and over - "Small government and Cutting spending", I believe he effectively brought a "new face" to the Republican party. Contrary to their actions - he promoted a very bi-partisan message and not the "my way or the highway" message that many Republicans bring. All in all, his response actually gives me hope that the deficit can be cut in an effective matter WITHOUT cutting essential services (i.e social security). The fact that he kept calling these things "entitlements" really bothered me though.

 

Good night for both parties though.

 

Oh and for the record, I'm quite Liberal myself.

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mike58

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Canadian here - watched the whole thing.

Obama just repeated the same thing as the past 2 years. Although I do believe he will retain office next year - his new move to appear "more in the center" kind of annoyed me. He acted just like a liberal in the U.S and talked without wanting to offend anyone - no spine at all. His new plans to make public-private sector deals have proven NOT to work in the past' date=' so I don't know why he even brought that up. The only parts of his speech that really appealed to me were cutting military spending, proceeding with the health care bill, and increasing investment in infrastructure and education.

 

As for the Republican response - Michele Bachmann is a moron so I'm not going to say anything about the "Tea Party Response". Her rhetoric not only appeared aggressive and confrontational - it was plain ignorant. As for Rep. Paul Ryan, I appreciate his very mature response. Although he repeated the same message over and over - "Small government and Cutting spending", I believe he effectively brought a "new face" to the Republican party. Contrary to their actions - he promoted a very bi-partisan message and not the "my way or the highway" message that many Republicans bring. All in all, his response actually gives me hope that the deficit can be cut in an effective matter WITHOUT cutting essential services (i.e social security). The fact that he kept calling these things "entitlements" really bothered me though.

 

Good night for both parties though.

 

Oh and for the record, I'm quite Liberal myself.[/quote']

 

"entitlements"... god i hate that word. put in some work and you'll get what you deserve.

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Kristufa

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"entitlements"... god i hate that word. put in some work and you'll get what you deserve.

Some people kind of can't... eat lol

I'd call them necessities rather than "entitlements".

 

And no, I don't condone those who feed off the system - it's FACT that some need it to survive though.

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mike58

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Some people kind of can't... eat lol

I'd call them necessities rather than "entitlements".

 

And no' date=' I don't condone those who feed off the system - it's FACT that some need it to survive though.[/quote']

 

of course there are some govt programs that are neccessary, i just see too many failures feeding off the system in my daily life to want to support such a program as it exists.

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Kristufa

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of course there are some govt programs that are neccessary' date=' i just see too many failures feeding off the system in my daily life to want to support such a program as it exists.[/quote']

Fair enough, do you work with them by any chance?

My parents came here as immigrants, so they kind of fed off government subsidies to survive and now we own an upper-middle class home. This is Canada though... so we ARE seen as slightly socialist lol. I've lived in it, so I guess you can say I have a bias.

 

I agree though - there's A LOT of government programs that are a complete waste. My friend worked with addicts before in a government program - and do you know how they helped them? They would give them free cocaine in smaller and smaller moderation each session FOR FREE so that they wouldn't go out and commit violent crime. I don't know - seemed like a waste of taxpayer money to feed their problems lol

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Fair enough' date=' do you work with them by any chance?

My parents came here as immigrants, so they kind of fed off government subsidies to survive and now we own an upper-middle class home. This is Canada though... so we ARE seen as slightly socialist lol. I've lived in it, so I guess you can say I have a bias.

 

I agree though - there's A LOT of government programs that are a complete waste. My friend worked with addicts before in a government program - and do you know how they helped them? They would give them free cocaine in smaller and smaller moderation each session FOR FREE so that they wouldn't go out and commit violent crime. I don't know - seemed like a waste of taxpayer money to feed their problems lol[/quote']

 

I dont work with them, no. I work primarily in the lower income, higher crime area of the city.

 

There are needle exchange programs in my area. Prevent spread of disease/viruses. Free drug distribution seems a bit over the top. lol just a bit.

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Kristufa

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I dont work with them' date=' no. I work primarily in the lower income, higher crime area of the city.

 

There are needle exchange programs in my area. Prevent spread of disease/viruses. Free drug distribution seems a bit over the top. lol just a bit.[/quote']

Lol higher crime comes from a mindset that they can't escape their current situation. I knew (as in he's in jail) a guy who thought his only way to get money for his family was to sell drugs. They didn't qualify for welfare, so he basically worked full-time as a teenager (starting at 16) and never came to school because paying the bills were more important. It sucks to hear these kinds of stories, so I feel the need for social services lol.

 

And that sounds more logical than giving out free crack XD

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Lol higher crime comes from a mindset that they can't escape their current situation. I knew (as in he's in jail) a guy who thought his only way to get money for his family was to sell drugs. They didn't qualify for welfare' date=' so he basically worked full-time as a teenager (starting at 16) and never came to school because paying the bills were more important. It sucks to hear these kinds of stories, so I feel the need for social services lol.

 

And that sounds more logical than giving out free crack XD[/quote']

 

My first thought is that the family is making money, enough that they dont qualify for welfare. Ok, so where is that money going? "Live within your means" was a message in the State of the Union address tonight?

 

Sorry, I know I dont know the whole situation. Every situation is different, of course.

 

Anyways, tired, going to bed. Late.

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Kristufa

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My first thought is that the family is making money' date=' enough that they dont qualify for welfare. Ok, so where is that money going? "Live within your means" was a message in the State of the Union address tonight?

 

Sorry, I know I dont know the whole situation. Every situation is different, of course.

 

Anyways, tired, going to bed. Late.[/quote']

Haha fair enough, and glad we had this chat ;)

And no, they just didn't qualify for the 2 year qualification period due to the fact that both parents had just recently lost their jobs (worked in the same factory).

 

Have a good night sir :D

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UFCITOLDUSO

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Canadian here - watched the whole thing.

Obama just repeated the same thing as the past 2 years. Although I do believe he will retain office next year - his new move to appear "more in the center" kind of annoyed me. He acted just like a liberal in the U.S and talked without wanting to offend anyone - no spine at all. His new plans to make public-private sector deals have proven NOT to work in the past' date=' so I don't know why he even brought that up. The only parts of his speech that really appealed to me were cutting military spending, proceeding with the health care bill, and increasing investment in infrastructure and education.

 

As for the Republican response - Michele Bachmann is a moron so I'm not going to say anything about the "Tea Party Response". Her rhetoric not only appeared aggressive and confrontational - it was plain ignorant. As for Rep. Paul Ryan, I appreciate his very mature response. Although he repeated the same message over and over - "Small government and Cutting spending", I believe he effectively brought a "new face" to the Republican party. Contrary to their actions - he promoted a very bi-partisan message and not the "my way or the highway" message that many Republicans bring. All in all, his response actually gives me hope that the deficit can be cut in an effective matter WITHOUT cutting essential services (i.e social security). The fact that he kept calling these things "entitlements" really bothered me though.

 

Good night for both parties though.

 

Oh and for the record, I'm quite Liberal myself.[/quote']

 

You have nothing to worry about from the reform movement in the republican party- it's a mile wide and an inch deep. The Tea Party, judging by the ACTUAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS of the politicians representing it, is exactly what this country needs, but the repub establishment, which is as much in the pocket of big business/ special interest, will never let it see the light of day. Remember the voters aggressively overthrew Obama's agenda in this last election, and therefore the reps should represent them aggressively. Only focus aggression will change the current course of out of control spending.

 

Again I am Canadian and from B.C. !!!! So we going to have a round 2 ! Ha but does living on the other side of the world and no longer being a Canadian resident make me Canadian still?

 

You should have no fear that you don't come across as very Canadian, my passive/ aggressive friend.

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NickTF

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Obama just repeated the same thing as the past 2 years. Although I do believe he will retain office next year -

 

If the optimistic predictions of the economy beginning to turn come to fruition he has a chance at re-election and even then by very thin margins. If the economy does not he is finished.

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I found the speech interesting and the rubuttals as well.

 

I am seriously trying to figure out if politicians are really this dumb or just think voters are.

 

The continual slagging on the economy like they are telling voters that there was some magic button Obama failed to push and because of that the economic recovery is slow. Hello. World Wide recession. There is no magic fix other than maybe starting another world war and pushing the reset button like they did in the 30's after the great depression.

 

It takes time to get the engine going again after it stalles out like it did. More than a year or two thats for sure.

 

There is certainly a way to cut back on spending. Close some of the 700+ military bases spread around the world. I can't figure out why the US population supports such over the top spending on foriegn bases when the people at home are hurting financially.

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