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Regardless of UFC Fight Night 24 outcome, Tito Ortiz not ready to retire

Tito Ortiz laughed it off at first. Then he realized they were serious.

 

Not long after Matt Hamill handed him his third consecutive loss at this past October's UFC 121 event, he got a call from UFC executive Lorenzo Fertitta and UFC president Dana White.

 

They told him he should retire. After the initial surprise, he pleaded with them.

 

"I said, 'You guys have got to give me a chance, man,'" Ortiz told MMAjunkie.com (http://www.mmajunkie.com). "Look at my last fights. I fought Forrest Griffin last year with a ruptured disk in my neck, and I still fought to a split decision. I come back a year later after neck surgery, and I fight a guy who's on a five-fight win streak, and I lost a couple of takedowns.

 

"You guys think I should retire? It's just crazy."

 

He eventually convinced them to give him one last shot. White later called him back, and Ortiz (15-8-1 MMA, 14-8-1 UFC) asked for a fight with Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (19-4 MMA, 2-1 UFC), the twin brother of former PRIDE and UFC champ Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira. "Little Nog" had most recently lost a unanimous decision to blue-chip prospect Ryan Bader.

 

The two are now set to meet in the headliner of the recently announced UFC Fight Night 24 event, which takes place March 26 at Seattle's KeyArena and airs live on Spike TV.

 

"I probably could have gotten an easier fight, but I wanted to challenge myself," Ortiz said. "Do I fight someone who I'm supposed to beat, or do I fight someone that's supposed to beat me? I like these terms better."

 

This past Saturday, White said Ortiz will "probably retire" if he loses to Nogueira.

 

Once a dominant force in an early era of the Zuffa-owned UFC, Ortiz's back is against the wall. His family life, meanwhile, has never been better. Despite the storm around him, he's happier than ever.

 

During his title reign in which he defended his belt six consecutive times, he had an entourage of 15 people following him at all times. He had 15 or 16 training partners, all part of his Team Punishment MMA squad. He had that glow that surrounds a champ.

 

Now, he has four or five training partners. The original team has scattered to the winds. He recently has taken refuge at Kings MMA and works with Fabricio Werdum, Mark Munoz, Jake Ellenberger and former Chute Boxe patriarch Rafael Cordeiro. But he's just another guy on the team.

 

He has not won a fight since Oct. 10, 2006, when he railroaded Ken Shamrock a third time at "Ortiz vs. Shamrock 3: The Final Chapter," a special Spike TV event.

 

"If you were to look in my car right now, it's empty," Ortiz said. "There's no one behind me. I literally have four friends, and that's it."

 

How does that feel? It's part of the business, he shrugs. When you lose, you suck. When you win, you're the greatest. He needs a win; he needs to build himself back up. But there is no reason to retire.

 

"That doesn't sit well with me at all," he said. "I'm not getting knocked unconscious. I'm not getting submitted. I'm not getting dominated. I'm losing by decision; I'm losing by draws."

 

So when White hints at his retirement, Ortiz bristles. And regardless of the outcome of the March 26 fight, he said he'll keep going.

 

"One-hundred percent," Ortiz said. "I'm healthy for once. People don't understand the injuries that I've gone through. I've had some serious, serious surgeries, and I went through some serious pain over the last seven years, and I fought through it. Now that I'm healthy and I feel good, I want to compete. I want to show the best I possibly can and fight the best guys possible."

 

If you're a longtime MMA fan, you've heard this rap before. The injury stories, the bad circumstances, and bluntly put, the excuses that follow an Ortiz loss. Online, his name prompts a stream of abuse from fans who are tired of hearing him cry wolf.

 

Meanwhile, he has more than 80,000 followers on his Twitter account. He sells a ton of Team Punishment merchandise on his website. People still line up for autographs.

 

"I've been in the game for a long time," he said. "For anybody to criticize me and say that I make excuses, well, those are the people that haven't lived my life. Those guys are behind the computer and are the computer tough guys who eat donuts and drink coffee every single day. Those guys can't say [expletive]. Those are the people I don't pay attention to. I pay attention to the people who support me, the people that have my back whether I win, lose, or draw."

 

But really, a win is everything when it comes to salvaging what's left of a name that people, love him or hate him, care about. Ortiz thinks Nogueira will bring the best out of him, and he'll show people he's still a force to be reckoned with. He says that every time, and he believes it.

 

His back is to the wall, but he likes it that way.

 

"It's just a challenge God has given me, and a challenge the UFC and Dana has given me," Ortiz said.

 

I hope Tito wins, It be weird seeing him fight for a different Org.

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I hope Tito wins' date=' It be weird seeing him fight for a different Org.[/quote']

 

Me too. But I think if it comes to that Dana would find him someone to fight but I could be wrong.

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I hope Tito wins' date=' It be weird seeing him fight for a different Org.[/quote']

he still is my fav fighter, i dont bandwagon at all, i hope he wins this fight, he needs to work on his striking a lot tho!

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Lose and he will be looking for a new job. He had his day and its long gone... We all know the story when what the last time he won a fight??? And who was it against??? Yup time to retire and go chill with Chuck.

 

Give the man a break dude seriously. He has went through a bunch of surgeries now that he is healthy lets see what he can do, give him a fair shot.

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Give the man a break dude seriously. He has went through a bunch of surgeries now that he is healthy lets see what he can do' date=' give him a fair shot.[/quote']

beat former champ forrest, then lost to him split dec. hurt, almost subed machida when machida was unstoppable... shoulda beat evans but got a point taken away... i mean come on.. give the dude a break

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Give the man a break dude seriously. He has went through a bunch of surgeries now that he is healthy lets see what he can do' date=' give him a fair shot.[/quote']

haha hit the wrong button, i agree with you tho, ik u werent talkin bad about him, it was the guy who you replied with quoted on

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Give the man a break dude seriously. He has went through a bunch of surgeries now that he is healthy lets see what he can do' date=' give him a fair shot.[/quote']

 

Yes he needs a break cause clearly beating your Ex **** star wife screams second chance..... He had his day. He did lots for the sport of MMA back then... Lil' Nog is a serious fighter and will pound him out... Truth.

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Yes he needs a break cause clearly beating your Ex **** star wife screams second chance..... He had his day. He did lots for the sport of MMA back then... Lil' Nog is a serious fighter and will pound him out... Truth.

 

I will account bet you on this fight...! If Tito loses I will leave this forum forever.

 

If Tito wins you dont even have to delete you account, just a two week no posting ban.

 

Change your AV to a tito one.

 

And have whatever sig I say. Deal?

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I will account bet you on this fight...! If Tito loses I will leave this forum forever.

 

If Tito wins you dont even have to delete you account' date=' just a two week no posting ban.

 

Change your AV to a tito one.

 

And have whatever sig I say. Deal?[/quote']

take it scotty to hottie

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yeah thats what i thought' date=' that she dropped the charges, sooo yeah didnt beat her.. so people can give that BS a rest[/quote']

 

yeah it was an accident that got blown way way out of proportion...

 

He was trying to leave cuz he was pissed and she would not get out the way so he went to walk around her she went to run in front of him but slipped and I guess he had already gotten out of the door before she fell or didnt realize it...Anger can blind you.

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I'm not a big Tito fan, but he has a point. He isn't risking permanent injury like Chuck, he isn't getting destroyed. he isn't even damaging his legacy (well not any more than he already has). If he wants to keep fighting he should go for it. Even if Dana fires him (and I don't think he will, at least not yet) there's big money to be made getting knocked out by Fedor.

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You just got owned by someone with a Kesha AV you fail at life lol.

 

Owned?? How can you own someone on the net? Bud I am not for sale of Craigs list or anything like that. GTFO and take your sick dreams of owning me with you. I don't swing that way but seeing you have such man love for Tito you most likely do. Yes clearly your Idea of Owning is way off.

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haha awesome' date=' and yeah ik anger can blind ya, she cant be to scared of him bc there back together, and she could [b']pretty much have ANY[/b]ONE haha, his cardio better be in top notch to deal with her lol

 

Yes because washed up old **** queens are such a prize... Nasty and just wrong.

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I'm not a big Tito fan' date=' but he has a point. [b']He isn't risking permanent injury like Chuck, he isn't getting destroyed. he isn't even damaging his legacy (well not any more than he already has). If he wants to keep fighting he should go for it[/b]. Even if Dana fires him (and I don't think he will, at least not yet) there's big money to be made getting knocked out by Fedor.

 

You were doing so well...then you added that last part. :(

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Owned?? How can you own someone on the net? Bud I am not for sale of Craigs list or anything like that. GTFO and take your sick dreams of owning me with you. I don't swing that way but seeing you have such man love for Tito you most likely do. Yes clearly your Idea of Owning is way off.

 

So are you going to accept my bet or look like what you really are? A huge big mouth that is actually a *****.

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so if she came up to you and said hey lets have sex youd say um no get away from me?

 

Yup with out a doubt. **** queens don't do it for me. I am older than 17 though so I have gotten over that kind of crap. /shrug different people like different things and someone who has seen more ****ends than weekends does not do it for me.

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Yup with out a doubt. **** queens don't do it for me. I am older than 17 though so I have gotten over that kind of crap. /shrug different people like different things and someone who has seen more ****ends than weekends does not do it for me.

i wouldnt date her, but i might sleep with her with a condom just to say hey, i f*cked jenna

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