SUN_TZUX Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 chuck liddell knocking out allister overeem http://www.wat.tv/video/chuck-liddell-vs-overeem-n1ic_2gyvd_.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hells_Bartender Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Dana White was like the guy from Rocky 4 during this competition. My guys the best, my guys the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Liddell was a beast back then. Also, I think Overeem is avoiding UFC because the average fighters here would put him in 3rd rate status real quick. JBJ, Hammill, Bonnar, Griffin etc. would all roll right over Overeem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells_Bartender Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Liddell was a beast back then. Also' date=' I think Overeem is avoiding UFC because the average fighters here would put him in 3rd rate status real quick. JBJ, Hammill, Bonnar, Griffin etc. would all roll right over Overeem.[/quote'] You seen overeem lately. He's a right roid munching machine. Guys like 260lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 You seen overeem lately. He's a right roid munching machine. Guys like 260lbs. I believe he's still suffering from "one-dimension-itis". Superior in that K-1 realm, but not nearly well rounded enough to take even a second rate UFC fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martino231 Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Liddell was a beast back then. Also' date=' I think Overeem is avoiding UFC because the average fighters here would put him in 3rd rate status real quick. JBJ, Hammill, Bonnar, Griffin etc. would all roll right over Overeem.[/quote'] I agree that he may not be as impressive against elite level competition. But you've named a load of LHW fighters. Overeem has packed on 50 pounds of pure muscle in the last few years and there's no way he could make the cut to LHW. If he were to fight guys like Bones, Hammill, Bonnar and Griffin, he'd be able to throw them around like ragdolls. Overeem's home is at HW. In my opinion the only fighter that can handle Overeem is an elite level HW wrestler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 I agree that he may not be as impressive against elite level competition. But you've named a load of LHW fighters. Overeem has packed on 50 pounds of pure muscle in the last few years and there's no way he could make the cut to LHW. If he were to fight guys like Bones' date=' Hammill, Bonnar and Griffin, he'd be able to throw them around like ragdolls. Overeem's home is at HW. In my opinion the only fighter that can handle Overeem is an elite level HW wrestler.[/quote'] I'll name Mir, Carwin, Velasquez, even Sylvia as odds on favs to beat Overeem at HW to demonstrate point that level of UFC vs Other orgs is hardly comparable any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells_Bartender Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 I believe he's still suffering from "one-dimension-itis". Superior in that K-1 realm' date=' but not nearly well rounded enough to take even a second rate UFC fighter.[/quote'] I share the same opinion. Was trying to say he's a huge heavyweight and those guys you pointed out were all Light heavies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoToGuy Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 I share the same opinion. Was trying to say he's a huge heavyweight and those guys you pointed out were all Light heavies. Was thinking the exact same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GstarUk Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 I'll name Mir' date=' Carwin, Velasquez, even Sylvia as odds on favs to beat Overeem at HW to demonstrate point that level of UFC vs Other orgs is hardly comparable any more.[/quote'] I wouldnt have said Sylvia, have u seen his fights lately :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells_Bartender Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 I wouldnt have said Sylvia' date=' have u seen his fights lately :eek:[/quote'] lol. That is pretty funny. Uber would destroy Sylvia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martino231 Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 I'll name Mir' date=' Carwin, Velasquez, even Sylvia as odds on favs to beat Overeem at HW to demonstrate point that level of UFC vs Other orgs is hardly comparable any more.[/quote'] I think he'd take Mir, Carwin and Sylvia. None of those guys have much of a wrestling base (I know Carwin can wrestle but he's hardly the cream of the crop), and there's no doubt that Reem would beat them up standing. Velasquez and Lesnar would give him problems in my opinion. Those guys are dominant wrestlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 I think he'd take Mir' date=' Carwin and Sylvia. None of those guys have much of a wrestling base (I know Carwin can wrestle but he's hardly the cream of the crop), and there's no doubt that Reem would beat them up standing. Velasquez and Lesnar would give him problems in my opinion. Those guys are dominant wrestlers.[/quote'] A second or third tier UFC fighter would thump the daylights out of Overeem. Mark my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guthro777 Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Sylvia??? Really?? For one thing he isn't in the UFC, and another thing Overeem would beat the **** out of him. Because you said Sylvia I have to say, you my friend, are clearly a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Sylvia??? Really?? For one thing he isn't in the UFC' date=' and another thing Overeem would beat the **** out of him. Because you said Sylvia I have to say, you my friend, are clearly a moron.[/quote'] Just stating my opinion. Your lack of respect for it shows your intel level and motive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryingsquirrel Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Then let me respectfully express the opinion that Silvia is unlikely to defeat Overreem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guthro777 Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Just stating my opinion. Your lack of respect for it shows your intel level and motive. Why would I respect a moronic opinion? I don't have to respect your opinion. I guess this means I should respect the opinions of the KKK too? Didn't think so.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Roy_Fan Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I think he'd take Mir' date=' Carwin and Sylvia. [b']None of those guys have much of a wrestling base [/b](I know Carwin can wrestle but he's hardly the cream of the crop), and there's no doubt that Reem would beat them up standing. Velasquez and Lesnar would give him problems in my opinion. Those guys are dominant wrestlers. from wikipedia shane carwin. Carwin wrestled in college, becoming a two-time NCAA Division II Wrestling National Runner-Up Heavyweight in 1996?97 and the NCAA II Wrestling Heavyweight National Champion in 1999. He was also a two-time All-American in football for Western State frank mir. Mir then began wrestling at Bonanza High School in Las Vegas, Nevada where during his junior year he lost his first nine matches.[8] During his senior year (1998) he went 44-1 and won the state championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaZz3000 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I'll name Mir' date=' Carwin, Velasquez, even [b']Sylvia[/b] as odds on favs to beat Overeem at HW to demonstrate point that level of UFC vs Other orgs is hardly comparable any more. serious question, are you actually high?! x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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