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now before you all get your pads bloody, give me a chance to explain what i mean when i say this.

 

the ufc is overrated in the sense that their fight roster is pretty much equal in talent to most other top organizations. the only reason why theirs is perceived to be the top tier roster in the world is because of mass marketing and promotion. thats what the ufc is good at. they are a business that knows how to make money, nothing more.

 

more people should be watching other mma events like strikeforce because in reality the talent level is the same, the only difference is promotion and distribution.

 

oh, and take anything dana white says with a grain of salt. although he claims that the best fighters in the world are in the ufc, keep in mind that dana white is the president of the seemingly top mma organization in the world, so that automatically makes him a liar and a power-hungry corrupt/evil person.

 

the ufc doesnt have the best fighters in the world. face facts.

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why is it that when someone doesnt like what i have to say, im labeled as a troll...?

 

its a legit topic guy. the talent level is even amongst all top organizations. its just marketing and distribution really.

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your probably judging the organisations by finishes or excitement in fights...MMA is not about flashy ko's and what not...a technical 3 round or 5 round fight is great to watch, i dont mind people being layd on for the whole match as long as theres some work to improve position, its not the fighters fault their opponent has no answer for them.

 

the reason SF finishes fights is because mismatch of talent...nick diaz has no real threat...he should be in UFC thats why he dominates every guy...melendez...no real threats...dominates guys...only thing arguably better in SF is HW division but apart from fedor/overeem those guys cant be credited because most the best HW's are in UFC SF just has more of a talent pool to choose between and market it as a big fight.

 

theres a legit answer.

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erm was a sig bet i had to paste it in...so no. :)

 

Oh, alright.

 

I thought you just couldn't spell, and it was driving me nuts every time I looked at it.:D

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Rofl thats why champions in other organizations come to the UFC and lose to middle of the pack guys. Sheilds is a great example.

 

When did Shields fight and lose to a middle pack guy? I saw him win a fight that he gassed in against a top 10 possible top 5 UFC WW.

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Rofl thats why champions in other organizations come to the UFC and lose to middle of the pack guys. Sheilds is a great example.

 

shields is a great example. to prove my point, not yours. hes fighting for the title now is he not?

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Rofl thats why champions in other organizations come to the UFC and lose to middle of the pack guys. Sheilds is a great example.

 

WOW!!!!!!! Your dumb. He would have been a good example had he lost...

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Lol that was not a win' date=' that was a gift. He sucks and everyone knows it.[/quote']

 

Yeah Dan Henderson knows that he sucks too...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

 

wait?

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your probably judging the organisations by finishes or excitement in fights...MMA is not about flashy ko's and what not...a technical 3 round or 5 round fight is great to watch' date=' i dont mind people being layd on for the whole match as long as theres some work to improve position, its not the fighters fault their opponent has no answer for them.

 

the reason SF finishes fights is because mismatch of talent...nick diaz has no real threat...he should be in UFC thats why he dominates every guy...melendez...no real threats...dominates guys...only thing arguably better in SF is HW division but apart from fedor/overeem those guys cant be credited because most the best HW's are in UFC SF just has more of a talent pool to choose between and market it as a big fight.

 

theres a legit answer.[/quote']

 

yes, there are fight mismatches. but is that really an indicator of talent? or is it strikeforces way of bringing in viewers?

 

attempting to make fights exciting by setting up mismatches is shady yes, but its an attempt to make more finishes and to make the events exciting. thats how theyre trying to bring in viewers imo. when they set up mismatches with their top guys fighting their lower echelon its not an indicator of their overall talent that they have.

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ye but dont forget mma is a sport and there should be legitimate rankings involved instead of always aiming to get more viewers by puting mismatches to get finishes.

 

MMA fans will always tune in to see a fight between 2 fighters who are around the same rankings, thats interest enough for most.

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yes' date=' there are fight mismatches. but is that really an indicator of talent? or is it strikeforces way of bringing in viewers?

 

attempting to make fights exciting by setting up mismatches is shady yes, but its an attempt to make more finishes and to make the events exciting. thats how theyre trying to bring in viewers imo. when they set up mismatches with their top guys fighting their lower echelon its not an indicator of their overall talent that they have.[/quote']

 

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Yeah Dan Henderson knows that he sucks too...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

 

wait?

 

He would be middle of the pack if he was in UFC, like most of their champions

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He would be middle of the pack if he was in UFC' date=' like most of their champions[/quote']

 

You do remember Hendo being in the UFC and fighting for both the LHW and MW titles against Anderson Silva and Rampage Jackson. Although he lost both fights he beat Palhares, Bisping(with one of the best KO's ever) and Rich Franklin. He then went to strikeforce because Anderson Silva refused to fight him again, meaning he was scared.

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now before you all get your pads bloody' date=' give me a chance to explain what i mean when i say this.

 

the ufc is overrated in the sense that their fight roster is pretty much equal in talent to most other top organizations. the only reason why theirs is perceived to be the top tier roster in the world is because of mass marketing and promotion. thats what the ufc is good at. they are a business that knows how to make money, nothing more.

 

more people should be watching other mma events like strikeforce because in reality the talent level is the same, the only difference is promotion and distribution.

 

oh, and take anything dana white says with a grain of salt. although he claims that the best fighters in the world are in the ufc, keep in mind that dana white is the president of the seemingly top mma organization in the world, so that automatically makes him a liar and a power-hungry corrupt/evil person.

 

the ufc doesnt have the best fighters in the world. face facts.[/quote']

 

no only ufc doesnt have fedor , werdom lost in the ufc,numerous ufc fighters beat allistair overeem, paul daley lost to numerous current ufc fighters, nate diaz was an ex ufc fighter,

 

So who are you talking about?

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You do remember Hendo being in the UFC and fighting for both the LHW and MW titles against Anderson Silva and Rampage Jackson. Although he lost both fights he beat Palhares' date=' Bisping(with one of the best KO's ever) and Rich Franklin. He then went to strikeforce because Anderson Silva refused to fight him again, meaning he was scared.[/quote']

 

Yeah that would put him middle of the pack.

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Yeah that would put him middle of the pack.

 

No, if Silva wasn't scared he would have been the #1 contender. So instead he was the #2 MW in the world at the time. #2 in the world = middle of the pack apparently.

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Junior dos Santos knocked out Fabricio Werdum in the 1st round

 

Mauricio shogun Rua knocked out Allistair Overeem in the 1st round

Chuck Liddell knocked out Allistair Overeem in the 1st round

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Junior dos Santos knocked out Fabricio Werdum in the 1st round

 

Mauricio shogun Rua knocked out Allistair Overeem in the 1st round

Chuck Liddell knocked out Allistair Overeem in the 1st round

 

He lost to Rua 4 years ago and has packed on 50 pounds and started training at top camps since then. It has been 8 years since the Liddell fight and my answer stays the same. You can't say he is the same fighter as he was before.

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No' date=' if Silva wasn't scared he would have been the #1 contender. So instead he was the #2 MW in the world at the time. #2 in the world = middle of the pack apparently.[/quote']

 

Wow exclusive story from UMCMMA Silva was scared of Hendo, you have that straight from his mouth right? He beat bisping so that puts him above bisping which is not #2. I believe the fight was going to Vitor instead of Henderson which I absolutely believe that Vitor is better than Henderson. Rampage beat him , Nog beat him, and he barely beat Franklin. That would place him middle of the pack in my eyes. Oh and I believe marquardt is better also.

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Wow exclusive story from UMCMMA Silva was scared of Hendo' date=' you have that straight from his mouth right? He beat bisping so that puts him above bisping which is not #2. I believe the fight was going to Vitor instead of Henderson which I absolutely believe that Vitor is better than Henderson. Rampage beat him , Nog beat him, and he barely beat Franklin. That would place him middle of the pack in my eyes. Oh and I believe marquardt is better also.[/quote']

 

Silva admitted turning down the fight with no reason. Hendo lost to Nog at heavyweight in pride which shouldn't be brought into the arguement. If you want to bring that stuff into it. Then Hendo was the only man to ever hold the pride 185 and 205 pound titles at the same time. He also knocked out a prime Wanderlei Silva. And Hendo beat Rich and Anderson turned Hendo down to fight Maia. I don't think Maia was the more deserving opponent.

 

And wow exclusive story from some noob that didn't know Dan Henderson held a pride belt! Hendo was never a top Middleweight!

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then stop watching

 

why would i stop watching the ufc? i like watching mma, im not gonna miss an event from a top mma organization and miss out on a night of fights. all im saying is that the talent levels amongst all the top organizations are fairly equal, and that the ufc doesnt have the best fighters in the world.

 

this is a perfect example of a response that i typically get on these forums when i bring up a topic that somebody doesnt like... these forums are crazy...

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why would i stop watching the ufc? i like watching mma' date=' im not gonna miss an event from a top mma organization and miss out on a night of fights. all im saying is that the talent levels amongst all the top organizations are fairly equal, and that the ufc doesnt have the best fighters in the world.

 

this is a perfect example of a response that i typically get on these forums when i bring up a topic that somebody doesnt like... these forums are crazy...[/quote']

 

Strikeforce top 10 is mainly UFC rejects outside of HW.

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now before you all get your pads bloody' date=' give me a chance to explain what i mean when i say this.

 

[b']the ufc is overrated in the sense that their fight roster is pretty much equal in talent to most other top organizations. the only reason why theirs is perceived to be the top tier roster in the world is because of mass marketing and promotion. thats what the ufc is good at. they are a business that knows how to make money, nothing more.[/b]

 

more people should be watching other mma events like strikeforce because in reality the talent level is the same, the only difference is promotion and distribution.

 

oh, and take anything dana white says with a grain of salt. although he claims that the best fighters in the world are in the ufc, keep in mind that dana white is the president of the seemingly top mma organization in the world, so that automatically makes him a liar and a power-hungry corrupt/evil person.

 

the ufc doesnt have the best fighters in the world. face facts.

 

Name the top 5/10 fighters in each division.

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Strikeforce top 10 is mainly UFC rejects outside of HW.

 

right.

 

FYI

 

I watch HD fight net daily and many MMA events.

To say UFC is over hyped due to marketing etc..is just too easy to say.

 

Look at all the pride fighters in the UFC...they cant pull down many highlight reels anymore now can they??!!

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right.

 

FYI

 

I watch HD fight net daily and many MMA events.

To say UFC is over hyped due to marketing etc..is just too easy to say.

 

Look at all the pride fighters in the UFC...they cant pull down many highlight reels anymore now can they??!!

 

I agree and disagree with this, Silva was a pride fighter and went 3-2 in pride. Most pride fighters are now old and out of their prime. However look at guys like Mayhem Miller, title contenders in Strikeforce and were cut from the UFC.

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right.

 

FYI

 

I watch HD fight net daily and many MMA events.

To say UFC is over hyped due to marketing etc..is just too easy to say.

 

Look at all the pride fighters in the UFC...they cant pull down many highlight reels anymore now can they??!!

 

you actually believe dana white when he claims that they have the top fighters in the world?

 

hes the head of the biggest mma promotion. how can a president or leader of a large company like the ufc not be a liar and a power hungry individual?

 

youre falling victim to danas lies guy.

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Is watching other promotions other than UFC good...no, its great. As a super fan of MMA I appreciate any kind of MMA bout whether its on TV, in a octagon, ring or whatever. As far as the talent level thats debatable. Most champs or former champs were champions in other organization before UFC. quick ex. (Anderson silva former cage rage middleweight champ, and I think a pride middleweight tournament champ - correct me if wrong), while a good percentage of champions, contenders, or prospects in organizations like strikeforce, bellator, titan fights, sengoku, dynamite, bushido, K-1 have made a name, or image for themselves having just been a participant under the Zuffa brand - UFC, WEC, Pride, TUF. quick examples (Abe wagner, Cole province, Tim Sylvia, Jorge Santiago, Paul Daley, Robbie Lawler, Nick Diaz, and some TUF contestants). Though fighters skill levels shouldn't be divided by what promotion they fight under EVEN UFC, because the majority of fighters train with each other in there gyms despite what promotion there under. (Hope I didn't make any false, or offensive statements

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Is watching other promotions other than UFC good...no' date=' its great. As a super fan of MMA I appreciate any kind of MMA bout whether its on TV, in a octagon, ring or whatever. As far as the talent level thats debatable. Most champs or former champs were champions in other organization before UFC. quick ex. (Anderson silva former cage rage middleweight champ, and I think a pride middleweight tournament champ - correct me if wrong), while a good percentage of champions, contenders, or prospects in organizations like strikeforce, bellator, titan fights, sengoku, dynamite, bushido, K-1 have made a name, or image for themselves having just been a participant under the Zuffa brand - UFC, WEC, Pride, TUF. quick examples (Abe wagner, Cole province, Tim Sylvia, Jorge Santiago, Paul Daley, Robbie Lawler, Nick Diaz, and some TUF contestants). Though fighters skill levels shouldn't be divided by what promotion they fight under EVEN UFC, because the majority of fighters train with each other in there gyms despite what promotion there under. (Hope I didn't make any false, or offensive statements[/quote']

 

Good post besides the Silva winning a pride tourney. It was Wanderlei not Anderson

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I agree and disagree with this' date=' Silva was a pride fighter and went 3-2 in pride. Most pride fighters are now old and out of their prime. However look at guys like Mayhem Miller, title contenders in Strikeforce and were cut from the UFC.[/quote']

 

Silva excluded...although his division is clearly the worst in the sport.

Silva's long winning streak is impressive, but his list oppenents ..not so much.

Belfort...I dont even know why he had a title shot.

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Silva excluded...although his division is clearly the worst in the sport.

Silva's long winning streak is impressive' date=' but his list oppenents ..not so much.

Belfort...I dont even know why he had a title shot.[/quote']

 

But Hendo, Franklin, Forrest and a few more were top guys and deserved to be there. However I know what you are saying and I feel the same way about Belfort. If only Anderson wouldn't have chickened out of a second fight with Hendo.

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ufc talent = strikeforce talent

 

dont listen to danas lies.

 

Strikeforce has talent, just not as much as the UFC, there top guys are right in the mix for best in the world. But there middle tier guys aren't that talented.

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