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yea u heard it here greasy st pu.ss aint no where near the king anderson silva.The greatest always makes greats look like chumps, Goes on to other kingdoms(weightclasses) and shows his dominace.Greasy got tko'd by a lw, imagine what the best striker in MMA would do to him.

 

'Once again The P4P Greatest is Anderson The Spider Silva!

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yea u heard it here greasy st pu.ss aint no where near the king anderson silva.The greatest always makes greats look like chumps' date=' Goes on to other kingdoms(weightclasses) and shows his dominace.Greasy got tko'd by a lw, imagine what the best striker in MMA would do to him.

 

'Once again The P4P Greatest is Anderson The Spider Silva![/quote']

 

I agree Anderson is p4p #1. But dogging on GSP that way makes me sure that you should've been aborted.

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nah guy, gsp is better than anderson. he fights more intelligently and always makes sure hes never in danger in a fight. therefore gsp will always win.

 

anderson is too wreckless to be considered better than gsp. because eventually hes gonna get caught by a knockout punch or crazy submission. he doesnt fight safe.

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nah guy' date=' gsp is better than anderson. he fights more intelligently and always makes sure hes never in danger in a fight. therefore gsp will always win.

 

anderson is too wreckless to be considered better than gsp. because eventually hes gonna get caught by a knockout punch or crazy submission. he doesnt fight safe.[/quote']

 

so what id rather have a b**** out guy then a safe guy

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so what id rather have a b**** out guy then a safe guy

 

sorry, but whod you rather have as the p4p king is irrelevant to who actually is the p4p king. and simply put, gsp is. because hes smart, he plays the percentages, hes gonna eventually rack up more consecutive wins over anderson.

 

and anderson is eventually gonna get knocked out or submitted the way he fights. case closed.

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sorry' date=' but whod you rather have as the p4p king is irrelevant to who actually is the p4p king. and simply put, gsp is. because hes smart, he plays the percentages, hes gonna eventually rack up more consecutive wins over anderson.

 

and anderson is eventually gonna get knocked out or submitted the way he fights. case closed.[/quote']

 

Seriously dude, just quit life. GSP cannot be considered better P4P than Anderson. GSP dominates 1 weight class. Silva has annihilated in 2. Case closed, go play with a loaded gun.

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Seriously dude' date=' just quit life. GSP cannot be considered better P4P than Anderson. GSP dominates 1 weight class. [b']Silva has annihilated in 2.[/b] Case closed, go play with a loaded gun.

 

winning two fights against non top 5 opponents in a heavier weight class doesnt warrant the p4p #1 spot. sorry.

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winning two fights against non top 5 opponents in a heavier weight class doesnt warrant the p4p #1 spot. sorry.

 

So..., beating all the top guys in 1 weight class and then beating so-so fighters in a heavier weight class doesn't hold any weight in p4p? Hasn't GSP only done one of those? End yourself. Before you do the sensible thing and overdose on sleeping pills, please explain your logic? GSP beats everybody at 1 weight class and that makes him better than Silva who does the same, plus he wins in a higher weight class, even if those fighters weren't top contenders? Explain.

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So...' date=' beating all the top guys in 1 weight class and then [b']beating so-so fighters in a heavier weight class[/b] doesn't hold any weight in p4p? Hasn't GSP only done one of those? End yourself.

 

cool down bro. and just face facts.

 

so by your logic if gsp were to beat akiyama (a so-so middleweight fighter) he would then be equal to anderson...?

 

fighting bums in higher weight classes means nothing guy. the real deciding difference between gsp and anderson is that anderson doesnt fight safe, therefore he will eventually lose.

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cool down bro. and just face facts.

 

so by your logic if gsp were to beat akiyama (a so-so middleweight fighter) he would then be equal to anderson...?

 

fighting bums in higher weight classes means nothing guy. the real deciding difference between gsp and anderson is that anderson doesnt fight safe' date=' therefore he will eventually lose.[/quote']

 

Ya. Sounds fair.

 

If GSP moved up and fought a Belfort, Sonnen, Okami and made them look like little girls... That would make a good case for being Anderson Silva's equal.

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sorry' date=' but whod you rather have as the p4p king is irrelevant to who actually is the p4p king. and simply put, gsp is. because hes smart, he plays the percentages, hes gonna eventually rack up more consecutive wins over anderson.

 

and anderson is eventually gonna get knocked out or submitted the way he fights. case closed.[/quote']

 

no GSP is going to have a tarnished record because he wont move up in weight

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sorry' date=' but whod you rather have as the p4p king is irrelevant to who actually is the p4p king. and simply put, gsp is. because hes smart, he plays the percentages, hes gonna eventually rack up more consecutive wins over anderson.

 

and anderson is eventually gonna get knocked out or submitted the way he fights. case closed.

 

 

LMAO, GSP has already been (T)KO'd and submitted in the UFC.

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LMAO' date=' GSP has already been (T)KO'd and submitted in the UFC.[/quote']

 

anderson has been finished too in his career, but bringing up fights that happened 4+ years ago/not during each of their respected title reigns is invalid.

 

gsp is at a point now where he cannot lose. he never loses rounds anymore guy. he fights intelligently and takes no damage while delivering.

 

and like i said, anderson continues to fight the way he does; recklessly putting himself in the fray against top strikers and letting himself get tossed around vs wrestlers. the way anderson fights is flawed therefore he will eventually get caught by a ko punch or submission.

 

and gsp will continue to fight safe and never be in danger of losing. therefore gsp > anderson. face facts.

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anderson has been finished too in his career' date=' but bringing up fights that happened 4+ years ago/not during each of their respected title reigns is invalid.

 

gsp is at a point now where he cannot lose. he never loses rounds anymore guy. he fights intelligently and takes no damage while delivering.

 

and like i said, anderson continues to fight the way he does; recklessly putting himself in the fray against top strikers and letting himself get tossed around vs wrestlers. the way anderson fights is flawed therefore he will eventually get caught by a ko punch or submission.

 

[b']and gsp will continue to fight safe[/b] and never be in danger of losing. therefore gsp > anderson. face facts.

 

Does that mean you believe he'll back off fighting Anderson Silva? Safe move. Good for him.

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anderson has been finished too in his career' date=' but bringing up fights that happened 4+ years ago/not during each of their respected title reigns is invalid.

 

gsp is at a point now where he cannot lose. he never loses rounds anymore guy. he fights intelligently and takes no damage while delivering.

 

and like i said, anderson continues to fight the way he does; recklessly putting himself in the fray against top strikers and letting himself get tossed around vs wrestlers. the way anderson fights is flawed therefore he will eventually get caught by a ko punch or submission.

 

and gsp will continue to fight safe and never be in danger of losing. therefore gsp > anderson. face facts.[/quote']

 

 

Quoting this so I can call you a moron when Shields wins rounds and maybe even the fight.

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yea u heard it here greasy st pu.ss aint no where near the king anderson silva.The greatest always makes greats look like chumps' date=' Goes on to other kingdoms(weightclasses) and shows his dominace.Greasy got tko'd by a lw, imagine what the best striker in MMA would do to him.

 

'Once again The P4P Greatest is Anderson The Spider Silva![/quote']

 

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anderson has been finished too in his career' date=' but bringing up fights that happened 4+ years ago/not during each of their respected title reigns is invalid.

 

gsp is at a point now where he cannot lose. he never loses rounds anymore guy. he fights intelligently and takes no damage while delivering.

 

and like i said, anderson continues to fight the way he does; recklessly putting himself in the fray against top strikers and letting himself get tossed around vs wrestlers. the way anderson fights is flawed therefore he will eventually get caught by a ko punch or submission.

 

and gsp will continue to fight safe and never be in danger of losing. therefore gsp > anderson. face facts.[/quote']

 

The way Anderson Silva fights is flawed! That has to be the dumbest thing I have heard he has won what is it like 13 fights in a row and 8 title defences!

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anderson has been finished too in his career' date=' but bringing up fights that happened 4+ years ago/not during each of their respected title reigns is invalid.

 

gsp is at a point now where he cannot lose. he never loses rounds anymore guy. he fights intelligently and takes no damage while delivering.

 

and like i said, anderson continues to fight the way he does; recklessly putting himself in the fray against top strikers and letting himself get tossed around vs wrestlers. the way anderson fights is flawed therefore he will eventually get caught by a ko punch or submission.

 

and gsp will continue to fight safe and never be in danger of losing. therefore gsp > anderson. face facts.[/quote']

 

LOL is al I can say.

 

GSP is an awesome fighter. There i sno denying that.

 

However, Silva goes out there to kill the guy across from him everytime. Not outscore his way to a decision victory.

 

The fact that Silva finishes his opponents much more often and in more spectacular fashion than GSP, that is why people say he is better, and I agree.

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Belfort -KO (1st Round)

Griffin - KO (1st Round

Rich Franklin - KO, TKO x2 (1st Round, 2nd round)

Marquardt - TKO (1st Round)

Irvin - KO (1st Round)

Leben - KO (1st Round)

Fricklund - KO (1st Round)

Okami - KO (DQ'd Loss)

Stout - KO (1st Round)

Rivera - KO (2nd Round)

Dos Anjos - TKO (1st Round)

Newton - KO (1st Round)

Steibling - TKO (1st Round)

Carneiro - TKO (tapped to strikes, 1st Round)

Fontinelle - TKO (1st Round)

Barreto - TKO (1st Round)

 

Sonnen - Tapped out (5th Round)

Henderson - tapped out (2nd Round)

Lutter - Tapped (Elbows and triangle choke. 2nd Round)

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It seems as though most people don't actually understand what P4P is. It's funny listening to people say that the GSP vs Silva fight will end the discussion. It won't. Say the argument is where Penn and Fitch should be ranked in P4P. Penn is a natural lightweight. No argument there. He could lose to Fitch 10 out of 10 times and still be ranked higher P4P. It's all based on what you accomplish in your natural weight class. As far as GSP and Silva goes, it's really a toss up. Silva has won in more spectacular fashion yes but St. Pierre has fought higher level competition, hands down. Silva moved up and had 2 great wins but if you put GSP against guys of that calibre in Middleweight he would do the exact same thing. Forrest is a good figher don't get me wrong but his striking is average at best.

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nah guy' date=' gsp is better than anderson. he fights more intelligently and always makes sure hes never in danger in a fight. therefore gsp will always win.

 

[b']anderson is too wreckless to be considered better than gsp. because eventually hes gonna get caught by a knockout punch or crazy submission.[/b] he doesnt fight safe.

 

haha, yeah well 13 fights into his UFC career and it doesnt look optimistic that it will ever happen brother. He's embarassed every single guy so how can you just assume he'll eventually get caught. Wreckless you say? No my friend, Chris Leben and Wandy are wreckless. Anderson is the most precise striker in the UFC and virtually never gets hit.

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It seems as though most people don't actually understand what P4P is. It's funny listening to people say that the GSP vs Silva fight will end the discussion. It won't. Say the argument is where Penn and Fitch should be ranked in P4P. Penn is a natural lightweight. No argument there. He could lose to Fitch 10 out of 10 times and still be ranked higher P4P. It's all based on what you accomplish in your natural weight class. As far as GSP and Silva goes' date=' it's really a toss up. Silva has won in more spectacular fashion yes but St. Pierre has fought higher level competition, hands down. Silva moved up and had 2 great wins but if you put GSP against guys of that calibre in Middleweight he would do the exact same thing. Forrest is a good figher don't get me wrong but his striking is average at best.[/quote']

 

there is no natural wieght class if its a ww fight than your a ww. you have guys cutting massive amounts of weight to have an advantage and some guys go up in weight to have advantages over the compotition. it dont matter the weight class u fight in its how many consecutive win and where your opponents are ranked when u beat them

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Where did the natural weight class thing come from. BJ Penn naturally has to drink a gallon of water to make WW weigh-ins.Anderson Silva jumped back and forth from 170ish to 185ish most of career' date=' and then up to 205ish just to mess up some LHWs.[/quote']

 

Against Fitch he weighed in at 167 with jeans and shoes on lol

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Belfort -KO (1st Round)

Griffin - KO (1st Round

Rich Franklin - KO' date=' TKO x2 (1st Round, 2nd round)

Marquardt - TKO (1st Round)

Irvin - KO (1st Round)

Leben - KO (1st Round)

Fricklund - KO (1st Round)

Okami - KO (DQ'd Loss)

Stout - KO (1st Round)

Rivera - KO (2nd Round)

Dos Anjos - TKO (1st Round)

Newton - KO (1st Round)

Steibling - TKO (1st Round)

Carneiro - TKO (tapped to strikes, 1st Round)

Fontinelle - TKO (1st Round)

Barreto - TKO (1st Round)

 

Sonnen - Tapped out (5th Round)

Henderson - tapped out (2nd Round)

Lutter - Tapped (Elbows and triangle choke. 2nd Round)[/quote']

 

You just named like 4 good fighters that he beat. There rest are washed up or not even close to top 10.

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You just named like 4 good fighters that he beat. There rest are washed up or not even close to top 10.

 

The guys 36 and been around beating the best of the best over multiple MMA generations. Bad knees, multiple knee operations. A lot of the guys he beat were great, but are retired or washed up.

 

Andserson Silva wins and has stood the test of the age, yet there's still this fighter out there that's a scared little girl, and Silva is still regarded as the best fighter in the world.

 

What are the fighters GSP fought 5-6 years ago doing now...

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cool down bro. and just face facts.

 

so by your logic if gsp were to beat akiyama (a so-so middleweight fighter) he would then be equal to anderson...?

 

fighting bums in higher weight classes means nothing guy. the real deciding difference between gsp and anderson is that anderson doesnt fight safe' date=' therefore he will eventually lose.[/quote']

 

Seriously, the fighting safe argument is just ****ing retarded. So I guess it's probably the only thought you can come up with. P4P has absolutely nothing to do with a ****ing style. It has everything to do with how effective you are with the style, safe or not. Regardless what you choose to believe, just because Anderson might lose because he doesn't go out there and hold people down has absolutely nothing to do with P4P. Seriously, go take a bottle of sleeping pills, please.

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You just named like 4 good fighters that he beat. There rest are washed up or not even close to top 10.

 

Please see if you can fly by jumping off the top of a very tall building. How they are ranked now does not matter. When they fought Silva, most of those guys were title contenders. So please **** off you retard.

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Please see if you can fly by jumping off the top of a very tall building. How they are ranked now does not matter. When they fought Silva' date=' most of those guys were title contenders. So please **** off you retard.[/quote']

 

 

Please tell me which were title contenders when he fought them. You have anger problems buddy.

 

 

Maybe 5 of them were real title contenders at the time.

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Belfort -KO (1st Round)

Griffin - KO (1st Round

Rich Franklin - KO' date=' TKO x2 (1st Round, 2nd round)

[b']Marquardt[/b] - TKO (1st Round)

Irvin - KO (1st Round)

Leben - KO (1st Round)

Fricklund - KO (1st Round)

Okami - KO (DQ'd Loss)

Stout - KO (1st Round)

Rivera - KO (2nd Round)

Dos Anjos - TKO (1st Round)

Newton - KO (1st Round)

Steibling - TKO (1st Round)

Carneiro - TKO (tapped to strikes, 1st Round)

Fontinelle - TKO (1st Round)

Barreto - TKO (1st Round)

 

Sonnen - Tapped out (5th Round)

Henderson - tapped out (2nd Round)

Lutter - Tapped (Elbows and triangle choke. 2nd Round)

 

The bold fighters are the legit top fighters at the time he fought them.

 

Thats not most of them... So whos the retard hot head?

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GSP lost the fight AND his title to Serra so the argument of "during his title reign" is preposterous.

 

The claim that GSP fights safe and Silva does not is also idiotic. Silva looked like he might be in trouble for one fight and now he’s crazy and fights recklessly? GTFO. He fights as safe as GSP; the difference is where each fights his respective fight. Silva will go back to his striking, whereas GSP will go for ground control and dominant wrestling. Silva knows he does not have to get on the ground with someone who could potentially submit him and does not; whereas GSP feels this is where he is strongest in many of his fights. Both fight safe, so that argument needs to be put to bed.

 

If you break down the Silva/Sonnen fight you can see that Silva used an open and low guard for almost the entirety of the first four rounds. When he actually started attacking seriously from the guard like he did against Lutter, you see a different style of BJJ in the fight. Silva knew Sonnen would get over eager and leave himself open and that is what happened.

 

If you break down the GSP/Serra bout you can see that GSP underestimated Serra and got caught and Serra jumped on him. I like Serra and GSP, but there is no way Serra has the same caliber of striking as GSP. GSP at the time was a young champion and got over confident. He has been practically flawless since.

 

Both of these arguments are mute in the P4P debate; as are GSPs loss to Hughes and Silvas losses to Azeredo, Takase, Chonan and Okami. Either fighter is light years away from the fighter they were when those losses occured and neither would lose those bouts today. The “avenged losses” debate carries just as little weight. A loss can not be “avenged” or taken away; it will always be a loss. Not to mention that in GSPs case with Serra, according to that argument, they still need to fight one more time.

 

If you match up Silva and GSP the odds are stacked in favor, very slightly, for Silva at this point. This is due mainly to creativity and the fact that Silva is by far the better striker. BJJ for both is about equal and GSP has incredible skill at transitioning from striking to TDs, but would that be enough since the fight starts standing?

 

Due to body type, I think it would be a mistake for GSP to try and GnP Silva, but that is also just conjecture. Only one thing is for certain and this is that fantards and allihaters will turn any good debate into a “Nuh-uhhh, my opinion is fact and yours is just stupid” fracas.

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