cdnMMAfan15 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I've seen and heard alot of talk in the last few days about who could beat Jones and who matches up well with him. I've decide that i will go through a list of opponents that have been mention and analyse their prospects of beating Jon Jones. i will list them in no particular order. MACHIDA- elusive counter striker, pretty good BJJ- well this is an intriguing matchup. an agressive fighter (jones) against a man who has made his career of countering agressive fighters (machida). Machida definately could beat bones, and stylistically he is probably the worst matchup for jones. I do NOT see his counter striking being very effective against jones because of jones' large reach advantage. he couldnt dart in and out like he does against most opponents which will hinder him. his best avenue for sucess is to get jones down, which is easier said than done. If he can counter jones not with a punch but a trip or TD and secure top position he will have a chnace to exploit what appears to be Jones' only weakness which is working off his back. Now we haven't seen jones there yet so his skill level there is a question mark but it appears to be his largest hole in his game. i'd gve machida a 25% chance of beating Jones. Anderson SILVA- amazing striker with decent BJJ- I may get flamed for this but this is a TERRIBLE matchup for Silva. his largest weakness is wrestling and Jones' strengthis wrestling. Jones would get silva down because every other wrestler he has faced has managed to take Silva down (Hendo, Lutter, Sonnen). once there i see Silva being finished within the next couple minutes. Jones' elbows are very powerful unlike sonnens attacks and given a chance Jones would maul Silva with a barrage similar to his fight with Hamill. Yes silva has a BJJ black belt however he has not shown the ability to sweep a wrestler as good as jones and i do not believe a triangle is the answer to jon jones' attack. Silva's only chance here is to stop jones from taking him down. I'd give Silva a 10% chance of winning. Rampage- Striker with good power- Page is simply too one dimensional to take jones on. of course he always has a punchers chance but i would see bones taking him down and finishing him there in the second or third round. i'd give page a 5% chance of taking out jones. Phil Davis- Great Wrestler- If he could take jones down his odds to win are fairly high. However if he cant get jones down, if jones get him down or he decides he'd like to strike with jones it'd be a short night for mr. wonderful. Based on how jones has done against wrestlers like Hamill and Bader i'd give Davis a 5% chance to beat him. (at thispoint. in a few years with impoved standup he would have a much better chance) Rashad Evans- wrestler with some power- Pretty much the same faults as Davis except rashad has more power. however a questionable chin means i only give him a 10% chance of sucess. and my pick as the most likely candidate to dethrone jones if the fought (which wouldn't be for a while) Roger Gracie- best BJJ in the world- On the mat the is no better fighter than Roger Gracie. If he could get jones down or even if jones took him down the fight wouldn't last very long. he would undeniably be able to sub jones. The question is can he get the fight to the ground? in the standup jones has a huge advantage. i'd say gracie has about a 45% chance of beating jones. this increases dramatically if it goes to the mat, but if it remains on the feet it diminishes to virtually nothing there are of course other possible fighter capable of defeating Bones such as Shogun or Mousasi however i feel that the fighters i have listed all stack up better than most other fighters. please feel free to comment, however if you disagree or would like to add fighters please elaborate and take bias out of your analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesystem25 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Cain Velasquez at 205. I believe Jones' only major weakness is the weight cut. As he fills out physically, he will undoubtedly have more weight to cut. Being a champ, there is always a risk of having to go five rounds were his endurance will be put to the test. Cain is the only HW who could reasonably cut to LHW (after some dieting and maybe one LHW warm-up fight) who has the endurance and tenacity to constantly pressure Jones. Cain will take a beating in the first 2 rounds. However, I would see Cain stealing the third round and outworking Jones in the 4th and 5th round. The other added benefit is Cain's monstrous right hook that could land. Is it likely going to land against a 6'4 fighter who employs an upright stance? Probably not. But Jones would be foolish to shoot in right away and risk getting clipped by it just like Brock. So this tool forces Jones to think a little more and hesitate. The other current LHW fighters would get beaten. Rashad has the second best chance as he is notoriously hard to finish (assuming he doesn't revert back to his KO artist fantasy). However, with a 5'11 height Rashad would literally be hanging on for dear life for 5 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 IMO, Jones is almost unbeatable at 205. He will dominate for a LONG time, he would tool Anderson, Shogun, Machida, anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRYME Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Forrest Griffin would wreck Bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarBJPenn Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Welcome to the Jones Era! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaySmartGE Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Matt Hamill. He beat him once and would beat him again. And Forrest Griffin for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady_Champ Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Forrest Griffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Kang Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Forrest Griffin would wreck Bones. Matt Hamill.He beat him once and would beat him again. I'm 99% sure Thiago Silva would smash Bones as well as Forrest and Hamill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady_Champ Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 This too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarBJPenn Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Forrest Griffin. you wonder why no one respects you here. moron for reals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaySmartGE Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 you wonder why no one respects you here. moron for reals! I think you quoted the wrong person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVTContour98 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I've got money that BJ Penn beats Jon Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Kang Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I've got money that BJ Penn beats Jon Jones. +1 BJ just fights, not dance around like Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesystem25 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Bj Penn? So much for a serious thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRYME Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 you wonder why no one respects you here. moron for reals! lmao @ the 11'er thinking Bones would beat Forrest. This kind of intellect is expected from a BJ Penn fan though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Kang Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 lmao @ the 11'er thinking Bones would beat Forrest. This kind of intellect is expected form a BJ Penn fan though. typical JBJ fans making these outlandish statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeanTownBorn Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I think Rashad and Randy have the best chance, but I think Jones is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Kang Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I think Rashad and Randy have the best chance' date=' but I think Jones is better.[/quote'] HOW COULD i FORGET ABOUT RANDY! He's mauled Bigger and Better fighters then Jones. That would be a cake walk for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazlufc Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Im quite surprised theres been no GSP mentioned. Theres no smarter fighter than ol George and i could see him beating him. But on the other hand i could see Jones beating GSP. Would be a decision either way for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady_Champ Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 you wonder why no one respects you here. moron for reals! Yeah because I'm the one everyone is laughing at in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady_Champ Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 HOW COULD i FORGET ABOUT RANDY! He's mauled Bigger and Better fighters then Jones. That would be a cake walk for him Right, He was able to stuff some of Brocks takedowns and gameplans really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarBJPenn Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Welcome to the Jones Era! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaySmartGE Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 HOW COULD i FORGET ABOUT RANDY! He's mauled Bigger and Better fighters then Jones. That would be a cake walk for him He beat Sylvia who is the best striker in the UFC HW division history. I'd have Randy beating Jones 8 times out of 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRYME Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Im quite surprised theres been no GSP mentioned.Theres no smarter fighter than ol George and i could see him beating him. But on the other hand i could see Jones beating GSP. Would be a decision either way for me. GSP would wreck Bones almost as bad as Forrest would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcapp123 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 can we say officially that WarBJPenn has down syndrome.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Kang Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 GSP would wreck Bones almost as bad as Forrest would. Jones' lanky frame is perfect for GSP to grab a leg and take him down. GSP would be all over Bones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady_Champ Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 can we say officially that WarBJPenn has down syndrome.... Yes we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady_Champ Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Welcome to the Jones Error! I'm tired fixing your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRYME Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 can we say officially that WarBJPenn has down syndrome.... I'm shocked his parents allow him to be on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorporalClegg Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 BJ Penn would stuff his takedowns and knock him out. 15 inch reach disadvantage.... who cares?! Time to start eating horse meat Penn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uktapout77 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 a juiced up thiago silva has a chance machida phil davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarBJPenn Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 No One! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRYME Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 a juiced up thiago silva has a chance machida phil davis Juiced up Thiago + Machida + Phil Davis = Forrest Griffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady_Champ Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Tito You're not allowed to like Tito! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Kang Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Juiced up Thiago + Machida + Phil Davis + Rogerio Nogueira = Forrest Griffin fixed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttons Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 The main thing that makes Jones hard to beat is his speed and constant pushing.. If you watch his last 4 fights he is always pressing and his opponents cant seem to handle it.. But he also does not seem to have to much KO power... so to handle Jones one need someone that can handle being pushed (so Rampage, Lyoto, Rashad and Shogun is out). We need someone that can handle the wrestling skills (so Forrest is out) The only one left if Randy!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRYME Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 The main thing that makes Jones hard to beat is his speed and constant pushing.. If you watch his last 4 fights he is always pressing and his opponents cant seem to handle it.. But he also does not seem to have to much KO power... so to handle Jones one need someone that can handle being pushed (so Rampage' date=' Lyoto, Rashad and Shogun is out). [b']We need someone that can handle the wrestling skills[/b] (so Forrest is out) The only one left if Randy!!!! There is someone you noob. His name is Forrest Griffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessorX Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Big Anderson I would put as favorite to beat him. He'd take some GnP, but he's too fast (too new school), superior cardio, agility and pinpoint KO power striking from odd angles. As an underdog Rashad by knowing his kryptonite? Phil Davis he's become a fast, slick, pretzally submission master - yes better ability to execute subs than Lil Nog. Machida, stays elusive, absorbs some shots and catches him with a stand-up flurry. HUGE underdogs - Rampage/Forrest - they'd get tooled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Kang Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Frank Mir apparently, Jones is afraid of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epilogue1406051983 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 now that you mention it, Roger Gracie would have the best chance at Jones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Kang Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 now that you mention it' date=' Roger Gracie would have the best chance at Jones...[/quote'] and Werdum too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady_Champ Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 The main thing that makes Jones hard to beat is his speed and constant pushing.. If you watch his last 4 fights he is always pressing and his opponents cant seem to handle it.. But he also does not seem to have to much KO power... so to handle Jones one need someone that can handle being pushed (so Rampage' date=' Lyoto, Rashad and Shogun is out). We need someone that can handle the wrestling skills (so Forrest is out) The only one left if Randy!!!![/quote'] Forrest beat Tito and was beating Rashad before he was KO'd, so he can handle a wrestler plus he's been working on his speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRYME Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 and Werdum too Werdum vs Jones wouldn't be fair at all. He would sub Jones faster than he subbed Fedor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarBJPenn Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Only God himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRYME Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Only God himself. There's no such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Kang Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Werdum vs Jones wouldn't be fair at all. He would sub Jones faster than he subbed Fedor. So that means JDS and Nog could beat Jones since they both beat Werdum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRYME Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 So that means JDS and Nog could beat Jones since they both beat Werdum JDS would make Jones quit fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarBJPenn Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 God loves Jon Jones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHA2011 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Jon Jones will beat King Kong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRYME Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 God loves Jon Jones! lol.. fairy tales Jon Jones will beat King Kong Fedor did that years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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