ForcexrecoN Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 His movement is similar to that of Roy Jones Jr. (head movement wise) not a lot of technique with the the head movement. Just inhuman reflexes. But look at RJJ, when he got older his inhuman reflexes became human and he started to get caught, not having a lifetime of practicing proper head movement he was unable to adapt. Cruz is similar to this, he will have his freak athlete head movement for AWHILE, maybe many years down the road it will start to decay then a fighter fast enough will catch him and capitalize on him. (Maybe Barao?) But as of now Cruz is the overlord of his division (as RJJ was when he was in his prime, cept RJJ hit like a truck). Though cruz's style similar to Machida's is unique and great to see in MMA today. You think I'm blowing this out of proportion or can you also see this happening in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGS17 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 This is what I have been saying for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GN_FDU Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 So what you're saying is that. . . fighters can't continue to fight at their highest level of performance because of their age? Okay, that makes a lot of sense. That explains a lot. Now I know why a lot of the older fighters lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGOAT Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I think so. He got caught by Faber a couple of times and got rocked. I can see a guy with big power KO'ing him. I love his style though. It's so fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForcexrecoN Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 So what you're saying is that. . . fighters can't continue to fight at their highest level of performance because of their age? Okay' date=' that makes a lot of sense. That explains a lot. Now I know why a lot of the older fighters lose.[/quote'] Look at Silva, he has proper head movement technique and his reflexes aren't as fast as they use to be (watch some of his older fights). His proper head movement is keeping him P4P #1. Cruz is using improper, reflex type head movement. If Silva's reflexes go, he still has a chance with technique, if Cruz's reflexes go, he's going out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo_Junior_AldoFTW Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Who has the power to knock people out at BW though? Faber- never Jorgensen-Yes but he has lost to Cruz already Barao-yes, if he can get a shot Bowles- Already lost to Cruz aswell Mighty Mouse- i say no I want to see Cruz fight Torres see how he matches up against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForcexrecoN Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Who has the power to knock people out at BW though? Faber- never Jorgensen-Yes but he has lost to Cruz already Barao-yes' date=' if he can get a shot Bowles- Already lost to Cruz aswell Mighty Mouse- i say no I want to see Cruz fight Torres see how he matches up against him.[/quote'] Jorgenson and Bowles have power but they were too slow, maybe when Cruz slows down. Barao if groomed properly like Jones can probably catch Cruz (TKO/KO) with one of his crazy *** lightning quick wheel kicks he liked to pull. Maybe. OR it could be a fighter we have yet to see (ala Jones bursting onto the LHW scene and dominating) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GN_FDU Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 He won't begin losing that ability until he gets to around age 35 unless he ages faster than the average fighter. All fighters can be put into that category. Guillard will lose his speed. A. Silva will VERY soon lose his reflexes. GSP will lose his explosiveness. Any fighter who relies on their God-given ability or abilities begin to lose continuously once those gifts are no longer there to take advantage of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokerslastlaugh Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I was going to agree 100% until: So what you're saying is that. . . fighters can't continue to fight at their highest level of performance because of their age? Okay' date=' that makes a lot of sense. That explains a lot. Now I know why a lot of the older fighters lose.[/quote'] +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForcexrecoN Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I want to see Cruz fight Torres see how he matches up against him. Torres .vs. Faber I'd like to see, if Torres gets by Faber then Torres / Cruz would be a great match. As if Torres resorts back to his WEC self (Face it he can't get KO'd or "caught" by cruz as cruz doesn't have damaging power) he may have the speed to get cruz. But who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForcexrecoN Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 He won't begin losing that ability until he gets to around age 35 unless he ages faster than the average fighter. All fighters can be put into that category. Guillard will lose his speed. A. Silva will VERY soon lose his reflexes. GSP will lose his explosiveness. Any fighter who relies on their God-given ability or abilities begin to lose continuously once those gifts are no longer there to take advantage of. Silva has a lot of technique to rely on though once his god given talents go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Completely impossible to say right now. Cruz is a beast. His combo's are really good, his wrestling is really good, HE is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAL918 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 He also didnt have his hands up much last fight. Cruz will be great for a while, but I see him falling off after a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForcexrecoN Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Completely impossible to say right now. Cruz is a beast. His combo's are really good' date=' his wrestling is really good, HE is good.[/quote'] As of now I don't see anyone dethroning Cruz for a few years. He will enjoy his throne for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GN_FDU Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Silva has a lot of technique to rely on though once his god given talents go. A. Silva's talents are also gifts. How many other fighters do you see that move like he does? How many are as fluid and make fighting look as beautiful as he does. His speed, his lightning fast reflexes to counter strikers will soon begin to disappear. I love A. Silva, but I have always said it. He will lose to Father Time first and then lose the title. There isn't a fighter right now who can beat Silva. Age will catch up to Silva then less talented opportunistic fighters will shine when that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I have to agree w/ the OP, his defense depends on unorthadox erratic movement, ... he has good athletic ability & ok cardio, but his style is just annoying to watch imo, Faber was trying to catch him coming in or moving out w/ one big shot & he wasn't up to the task that night & I really couldn't care less about Cruz vs Faber lll > ... different strokes for different folks - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo_Junior_AldoFTW Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Well it looks like it we be Bowles or Mighty Mouse next for Cruz.......i'd like to see mighty mouse i think he's just as fast as Cruz but his standup is nothing compared to Cruz but obviously his wrestling is his strength as we sore against Miguel. I could see him maybe getting Cruz down a few times but Cruz will pop straight back up and take a UD lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForcexrecoN Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 A. Silva's talents are also gifts. How many other fighters do you see that move like he does? How many are as fluid and make fighting look as beautiful as he does. His speed' date=' his lightning fast reflexes to counter strikers will soon begin to disappear. I love A. Silva, but I have always said it. He will lose to Father Time first and then lose the title. There isn't a fighter right now who can beat Silva. Age will catch up to Silva then less talented opportunistic fighters will shine when that happens.[/quote'] Unlike Silva, Cruz's unorthodox style could also get him randomly caught (Faber tagged him a few times causing him to trip/stagger a bit. Prolly more of a trip). A few years from now if Barao is groomed properly there is a slight chance Cruz could go the way Torres did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 As of now I don't see anyone dethroning Cruz for a few years. He will enjoy his throne for awhile. This is what I think. He'll enjoy his championship for a good long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GN_FDU Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Unlike Silva' date=' Cruz's unorthodox style could also get him randomly caught[/b'] (Faber tagged him a few times causing him to trip/stagger a bit. Prolly more of a trip). A few years from now if Barao is groomed properly there is a slight chance Cruz could go the way Torres did. The bold I completely agree with. His movement is so unpredictable. During the fight, I was thinking Cruz would probably lose to a fighter who randomly swings as his coming in. All the fighters he's fought try to predict where he'll be and swing at that general direction. Wrong style to beat him in my eyes. All I know is to throw wild hooks and uppercuts as he's coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Cruz is in a great spot after his very satisfying win. Faber is his best competition in the division so his win gives him some breathing space until they fight again. I think he will be fine against the other fighters in the division. Unless he does something crazy like move up in weight and fight Aldo he should have an enjoyable few years at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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