sagging_ballsack Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Why does everyone question his striking skills. I'm not saying they're good but he did go toe 2 toe swinging with cain velasquez, until he got hit a couple good times. I just want to hear some thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForrestGriffinFan101 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 He strikes like a second grade girl, both offensively and defensively.... and sensitivity-wise also.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRearNaked Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Why does everyone question his striking skills. I'm not saying they're good but he did go toe 2 toe swinging with cain velasquez' date=' until he got hit a couple good times. I just want to hear some thoughts.[/quote'] His striking sucks. I have better technique then Brock Lesnar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nizmo270r Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Lesnar has standup??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernmentMule Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 You might want to ask the mods to delete this. It just makes you look silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRearNaked Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 He strikes like a second grade girl' date=' both offensively and defensively.... and sensitivity-wise also....[/quote'] Do you know that guy in you're picture is gay? He played such a bada$$ in harold and kumar goes to white castle. Surprised me when i found out haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefco1990 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 He went toe to toe, and caught the thunder. Cain made him look like a pratz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagging_ballsack Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 You might want to ask the mods to delete this. It just makes you look silly. If you read it correctly, instead of watching your sister do your dad. Then you would have noticed i said "im not saying its good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagging_ballsack Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 He went toe to toe' date=' and caught the thunder. Cain made him look like a pratz.[/quote'] That was a sad day for man kind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernmentMule Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 If you read it correctly' date=' instead of watching your sister do your dad. Then you would have noticed i said "im not saying its good"[/quote'] I never learned to read past the second grade level -- Bad lawnmower accident back in '89. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 LoL @ the username... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarWest® Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 He strikes like a second grade girl' date=' both offensively and defensively.... and sensitivity-wise also....[/quote'] This^^^^ 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagging_ballsack Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 LoL @ the username... lmao... I was watching a randy coulture fight, so i put the first thing that came to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagging_ballsack Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 This^^^^ 100% What got me, is that he out striked Mir! Total surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 lmao... I was watching a randy coulture fight' date=' so i put the first thing that came to mind.[/quote'] Randy made you think of your username ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesy Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Lesnar is one fighter I would absolutely love to see adopt a safer fighting style, at least in the standup. Like Rashad and GSP, he doesn't take shots very well. And taking a cue from those two, he should be using his freak athleticism and speed to better utilize his movement and footwork. I mean, don't stand in the pocket and slug away like you're freakin' Wanderlei; be more tentative, tactical, and efficient with your strikes. Brock has unmitigated power in his hands and if he was more strategic -- even simply sticking to basic, well-timed jabs -- he could be that much more effective and better avoid the kind of danger that flips his turtle switch on. IMO, Brock needs to work on his attitude and mentality moreso than his technique. He goes in there and thinks that just because he's the bigger guy he can bully everyone. He charges in there with guns blazing, doesn't care enough to be patient, and recklessly throws just to be the aggressor. Hopefully, he has learned from his setbacks and comes back fighting smarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagging_ballsack Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Randy made you think of your username ? Yes. I know, it was weirder than you think 0_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRearNaked Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 lmao... I was watching a randy coulture fight' date=' so i put the first thing that came to mind.[/quote'] Lol wtf? Randy Couture made you think of you're username? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangasm Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Lesnar is one fighter I would absolutely love to see adopt a safer fighting style' date=' at least in the standup. Like Rashad and GSP, he doesn't take shots very well. And taking a cue from those two, he should be using his freak athleticism and speed to better utilize his movement and footwork. I mean, don't stand in the pocket and slug away like you're freakin' Wanderlei; be more tentative, tactical, and efficient with your strikes. Brock has unmitigated power in his hands and if he was more strategic -- even simply sticking to basic, well-timed jabs -- he could be that much more effective and better avoid the kind of danger that flips his turtle switch on. IMO, Brock needs to work on his attitude and mentality moreso than his technique. He goes in there and thinks that just because he's the bigger guy he can bully everyone. He charges in there with guns blazing, doesn't care enough to be patient, and recklessly throws just to be the aggressor. Hopefully, he has learned from his setbacks and comes back fighting smarter.[/quote'] Great post. Whoops, I mean "LoL you dum. Bork lestard sux at fiteing in the UFC fites. *HILARIOUS turtle-shop* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRearNaked Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Yes. I know' date=' it was weirder than you think 0_o[/quote'] Explain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagging_ballsack Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Lesnar is one fighter I would absolutely love to see adopt a safer fighting style' date=' at least in the standup. Like Rashad and GSP, he doesn't take shots very well. And taking a cue from those two, he should be using his freak athleticism and speed to better utilize his movement and footwork. I mean, don't stand in the pocket and slug away like you're freakin' Wanderlei; be more tentative, tactical, and efficient with your strikes. Brock has unmitigated power in his hands and if he was more strategic -- even simply sticking to basic, well-timed jabs -- he could be that much more effective and better avoid the kind of danger that flips his turtle switch on. IMO, Brock needs to work on his attitude and mentality moreso than his technique. He goes in there and thinks that just because he's the bigger guy he can bully everyone. He charges in there with guns blazing, doesn't care enough to be patient, and recklessly throws just to be the aggressor. Hopefully, he has learned from his setbacks and comes back fighting smarter.[/quote'] +1.... I always imagined if he ever went down to Greg Jacksons camp, would that ever help him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagging_ballsack Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Explain WTH lmao!!.. I was just kidding.. it was the first name i thought of though. plus i got a good laugh creating it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRearNaked Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 WTH lmao!!.. I was just kidding.. it was the first name i thought of though. plus i got a good laugh creating it Is this you're first account on this forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagging_ballsack Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Is this you're first account on this forum? No. i had one but i forgot the password, and username. I had finally decided to make a new one yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRearNaked Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 No. i had one but i forgot the password' date=' and username. I had finally decided to make a new one yesterday.[/quote'] You forgot the username huh? LOL. You SmoKinGup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagging_ballsack Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 You forgot the username huh? LOL. You SmoKinGup? I only had, like 3 post on there.Then I went out of town, came back and forgot about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesy Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 +1.... I always imagined if he ever went down to Greg Jacksons camp' date=' would that ever help him.[/quote'] Training with Jackson would probably do him tons of good, but realistically speaking he would never bother with that. He's all about being with his family, keeping outside trips to a bare minimum, and paying a few dudes to come down to his gym every so often to "polish" his game, which I think is complete horse-****. You're gonna have a hard time becoming a real fighter that way. Everything has to be convenient for Brock and I think that's the biggest flaw in his camp. I don't know about now, but up to the Velasquez fight his boxing coach, Peter Welch, only made weekly trips down to Deathclutch to help with his striking. That's friggin' sad. Someone as green as Brock should be sparring full-on everyday. If Brock ever turns in another performance like his last two fights, Marty Morgan should be lynched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarWest® Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Training with Jackson would probably do him tons of good' date=' but realistically speaking he would never bother with that. He's all about being with his family, keeping outside trips to a bare minimum, and paying a few dudes to come down to his gym every so often to "polish" his game, which I think is complete horse-****. You're gonna have a hard time becoming a real fighter that way. Everything has to be convenient for Brock and I think that's the biggest flaw in his camp. I don't know about now, but up to the Velasquez fight his boxing coach, Peter Welch, only made weekly trips down to Deathclutch to help with his striking. That's friggin' sad. Someone as green as Brock should be sparring full-on everyday. If Brock ever turns in another performance like his last two fights, Marty Morgan should be lynched.[/quote'] And This^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagging_ballsack Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Training with Jackson would probably do him tons of good' date=' but realistically speaking he would never bother with that. He's all about being with his family, keeping outside trips to a bare minimum, and paying a few dudes to come down to his gym every so often to "polish" his game, which I think is complete horse-****. You're gonna have a hard time becoming a real fighter that way. Everything has to be convenient for Brock and I think that's the biggest flaw in his camp. I don't know about now, but up to the Velasquez fight his boxing coach, Peter Welch, only made weekly trips down to Deathclutch to help with his striking. That's friggin' sad. Someone as green as Brock should be sparring full-on everyday. If Brock ever turns in another performance like his last two fights, Marty Morgan should be lynched.[/quote'] Yea he definitly comes off as a guy, who doesnt wnat to work for the W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesy Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Yea he definitly comes off as a guy' date=' who doesnt wnat to work for the W[/quote'] Don't get me wrong, Lesnar works like a friggin' dog. In fact, in terms of the things he does you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone in the sport whose at his level. Luke Richesson, who works with the Jacksonville Jaguars, is his strength and conditioning coach and has him doing the most insane things -- just crazy, elite-calibre workouts. So, there's no disputing that Brock trains at the absolute highest level as a professional athlete. But it's a different story when you're talking about training MMA, I have to think. He needs to spar more and he needs to change his standup approach. More GSP, less Leben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjmt Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 His stand up is horrible and that would be ok if he could take a decent punch to the face without running away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweak Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 His offensive striking was pretty crisp vs Cain. Everything else was ordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Why does everyone question his striking skills. I'm not saying they're good but he did go toe 2 toe swinging with cain velasquez' date=' .[/quote']... I didn't see it that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 He strikes like a second grade girl' date=' both offensively and defensively.... and sensitivity-wise also....[/quote'] ... you have just insulted all the 2nd grade girls that practice mma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 His offensive striking was pretty crisp vs Cain. Everything else was ordinary. Yeah he pretty much got molested against cain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 His stand up is horrible and that would be ok if he could take a decent punch to the face without running away. 33 yrs old, punch shy, & looking at possibly fighting w/ dos Santos, Velasquez, & Carwin to regain the heavyweight title - I don't think its gonna happen ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 You forgot the username huh? LOL. You SmoKinGup? ... could be sco 0.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 +1.... I always imagined if he ever went down to Greg Jacksons camp' date=' would that ever help him.[/quote'] I'm afrad he is beyond help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightycracker Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Why does everyone question his striking skills. I'm not saying they're good but he did go toe 2 toe swinging with cain velasquez' date=' until he got hit a couple good times. I just want to hear some thoughts.[/quote'] just because you decide to go toe to toe with someone doesnt mean you have any striking ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightycracker Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 his stand up is horrible and that would be ok if he could take a decent punch to the face without running away. this^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Why does everyone question his striking skills. I'm not saying they're good but he did go toe 2 toe swinging with cain velasquez' date=' until he got hit a couple good times. I just want to hear some thoughts.[/quote'] Because they suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Lesnar has standup??? +1 You might want to ask the mods to delete this. It just makes you look silly. +1 He went toe to toe' date=' and caught the thunder. Cain made him look like a pratz.[/quote'] +1 His offensive striking was pretty crisp vs Cain. Everything else was ordinary. oh my ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi_wan_kenobi Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 he outstruck mir, couture and herring. his standup isnt great , but its not as bad as people make it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicboxer Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Do you know that guy in you're picture is gay? He played such a bada$$ in harold and kumar goes to white castle. Surprised me when i found out haha. How did u find out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSuperman Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 he outstruck mir' date=' couture and herring. his standup isnt great , but its not as bad as people make it out to be.[/quote'] Herring? You mean the one punch in the beginning of the fight? Herring knew Brock was a wrestler, and Brock used that to his advantage to land a quick straight. That's all there was Mir? Which fight are you talking about? The one where Brock got dropped by "Faber Double Knee's"? Mir was whooping him on the stand up in the second fight up until Mir threw those stupid knees and got trapped on the ground Couture? Cause he dropped him? They were clinched for quite some time, and Randy is a warrior, but there was no way he wasn't using a lot of energy to keep Brock's weight from crushing him up against the fence without getting tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 being hit is his kryptonite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookster Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Lesnar is the worst most overrated name to ever take part in professional mma. Cashcows will always backfire in the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho_MMA Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 TBH when your as big as Lesnar you do not need to have crisp standup...one hit from him will put you out or at least rock you enough to give him a great chance to finish you. he just has poor defensive striking, hes like Koscheck who swings that 1 big right and it will more than likely KO you. he gets alot of hate for his WWE days, end of the day he made a high level BJJ blackbelt like Mir look like he had never took a class of Jiu Jitsu in his life in the rematch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malekith Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 TBH when your as big as Lesnar you do not need to have crisp standup...one hit from him will put you out or at least rock you enough to give him a great chance to finish you. he just has poor defensive striking' date=' [b']hes like Koscheck who swings that 1 big right and it will more than likely KO you.[/b] he gets alot of hate for his WWE days, end of the day he made a high level BJJ blackbelt like Mir look like he had never took a class of Jiu Jitsu in his life in the rematch. Obviously you do technique when you are that big because Lesnar has never KO'd anyone lol. He may have TKO'd but that is a huge difference. Not to mention the only person he rocked with one punch standing was Randy, and Randy is old and he was probably gassed seeing as he had controlled Lesnar Against the cage most of the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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