forgivemyhonesty Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 top LHW (in no particular order) Jon Jones fighting Rampage Rashad Evans fighting Phil Davis Forest Griffin fighting Shogun Who is Lyoto going to fight during this? Lyoto is without a suitable fight for the next few months and he is ready to go now. How can the UFC keep him busy? Chael Sonnen is returning and also needs a credible win to get him back into title contention... but really, Chael's appeal to the UFC isn't as a champion... after all, he's a criminal. Chael's appeal is as someone who makes otherwise meaningless fights meaningful. top MW (in no particular order) Anderson fighting Okami Bisping fighting Miller Marquardt is fired and was MW most popular can anyway... Stan is available, but UFC wouldn't match him with Chael for the same reason they wouldn't match Velasquez and Dos Santos... why knock a money maker to the bottom of the ladder when you can conceivably do title fights with both separately? Munoz is a viable option... but it would be a much MUCH more interesting story to see Chael vs Lyoto. Lyoto needs a fight to stay active so give him a fight with someone who won't disrupt the flow of the rest of the LHW division. give him an interesting fight to hold him over until the other LHWs are available. at the same time, this gives Chael the FASTEST route to the MW title and at the same time builds on an interesting story. You can't give Chael any other LHW like tito or someone like that because it's IRRELEVANT! Lyoto is Andy's bff! if Chael beats Lyoto... INSTANT REVENGE MATCH! FOR THE TITLE! if Lyoto wins then he'll have kept busy and defeated a tough competitor and by this point another LHW should be available for him to continue his road to a title shot. This is an interesting fight... i don't understand why people think it doesn't make sense. it makes perfect sense. it's a grudge match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicjewzombie Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 i`d like to see wanderlai vs sonnen and machida vs ortiz 2 instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Agree with the OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I have yet to see people complaining about the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglebird Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 no complaints, everyone wants to see Machida crush Sonnen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_cillo Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 i`d like to see wanderlai vs sonnen and machida vs ortiz 2 instead. Sonnen would own W. Silva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_Against_The_World Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 no complaints' date=' everyone wants to see Machida crush Sonnen[/quote'] I think Chael can beat a lot of LHWs , top ones even. People say he will get out sized by guys like Bader and Phil Davis it's just....I have no clue how good Chaels hands are I can't remember the last time he didn't have the ability to maul an opponent on the ground. So for the few in the division he cannot easily takedown this X-Factor weighs heavily on if he'd do well or not at 205. On Another note , he doesn't plan on staying at 205 apparently he just wants to make a statement of the "Karate Guy" which...Probably the worst guy in the division for him to call out even worse than Jones, though I wouldn't be shocked at an win for Sonnen just upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlebright Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 top LHW (in no particular order) Jon Jones fighting Rampage Rashad Evans fighting Phil Davis Forest Griffin fighting Shogun Who is Lyoto going to fight during this? Lyoto is without a suitable fight for the next few months and he is ready to go now. How can the UFC keep him busy? Chael Sonnen is returning and also needs a credible win to get him back into title contention... but really' date=' Chael's appeal to the UFC isn't as a champion... after all, he's a criminal. Chael's appeal is as someone who makes otherwise meaningless fights meaningful. top MW (in no particular order) Anderson fighting Okami Bisping fighting Miller Marquardt is fired and was MW most popular can anyway... Stan is available, but UFC wouldn't match him with Chael for the same reason they wouldn't match Velasquez and Dos Santos... why knock a money maker to the bottom of the ladder when you can conceivably do title fights with both separately? Munoz is a viable option... but it would be a much MUCH more interesting story to see Chael vs Lyoto. Lyoto needs a fight to stay active so give him a fight with someone who won't disrupt the flow of the rest of the LHW division. give him an interesting fight to hold him over until the other LHWs are available. at the same time, this gives Chael the FASTEST route to the MW title and at the same time builds on an interesting story. You can't give Chael any other LHW like tito or someone like that because it's IRRELEVANT! Lyoto is Andy's bff! if Chael beats Lyoto... INSTANT REVENGE MATCH! FOR THE TITLE! if Lyoto wins then he'll have kept busy and defeated a tough competitor and by this point another LHW should be available for him to continue his road to a title shot. This is an interesting fight... i don't understand why people think it doesn't make sense. it makes perfect sense. it's a grudge match.[/quote'] I see your point about keeping Machida active. All of the other top LHWs are currently booked. So unless you want to give him Tito or Bonnar, there aren't any options for him right now. But I'm not sure how this makes sense for Chael. Is he permanently moving to 205 or is this just a special attraction type fight? Beating Machida wouldn't do much for him in the MW rankings. There are a few upcoming MW contenders who deserve a top five opponent next. Munoz and Stann both come to mind. I'd rather see Chael stay in his own division for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglebird Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I think Chael can beat a lot of LHWs ' date=' top ones even. People say he will get out sized by guys like Bader and Phil Davis it's just....I have no clue how good Chaels hands are I can't remember the last time he didn't have the ability to maul an opponent on the ground. So for the few in the division he cannot easily takedown this X-Factor weighs heavily on if he'd do well or not at 205. On Another note , he doesn't plan on staying at 205 apparently he just wants to make a statement of the "Karate Guy" which...Probably the worst guy in the division for him to call out even worse than Jones, though I wouldn't be shocked at an win for Sonnen just upset.[/quote'] Chael's one chance (the TD). He will not pull this off on LHWs like Machida (shogun maybe) Also, people are going to be shocked at how much weaker Sonnen is without his PEDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_Against_The_World Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Chael's one chance (the TD). He will not pull this off on LHWs like Machida (shogun maybe) Also' date=' people are going to be shocked at how much weaker Sonnen is without his PEDs[/quote'] 20lbs of mass > Roids , he will be stronger than against Anderson. You are coming off as a just another hater with clouded judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benni Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Chael would destroy Wanderlei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglebird Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 20lbs of mass > Roids ' date=' he will be stronger than against Anderson. You are coming off as a just another hater with clouded judgment.[/quote'] you will be one of those Shocked ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenAfro Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 All part of Chael's master plan to be the third man to hold titles in different weight classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_Against_The_World Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 All part of Chael's master plan to be the third man to hold titles in different weight classes. 145lb division and 185lb division , he's just fighting Machida to **** with blackhouse more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takeshi_Dai Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 20lbs of mass > Roids ' date=' he will be stronger than against Anderson. You are coming off as a just another hater with clouded judgment.[/quote'] Wow, you are retarded. Obviously, you don't realize the effects of steroids on strength enhancement. There are guys that weigh 160lbs that can bench over 600 lbs because they use steroids. Don't even get me started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglebird Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Hah, right. Chael is going to add 20lbs of muscle mass with no steroids, then cut back to 185 after he gets smashed by Lyoto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenAfro Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Wow' date=' you are retarded. Obviously, you don't realize the effects of steroids on strength enhancement. There are guys that weigh 160lbs that can bench over 600 lbs because they use steroids. Don't even get me started.[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiousmat Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 i`d like to see wanderlai vs sonnen and machida vs ortiz 2 instead. why machida vs ortiz 2. everyone keeps talking about this its ********. Ortiz lost and it was a clear loss. move on. I want to see Machida vs Sonnen cuz I think Sonnen doesn't stand a freagin chance in this fight and I wanna see him lose his comeback fight and become totally irrelevent again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiousmat Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Wow' date=' you are retarded. Obviously, you don't realize the effects of steroids on strength enhancement. There are guys that weigh 160lbs that can bench over 600 lbs because they use steroids. Don't even get me started.[/quote'] dumb statement....and untrue. oh unless you're talking about guys who have no legs... in this case 160 is a big guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorporalClegg Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Just ask Sean Penn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGS17 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 no complaints' date=' [b']everyone wants to see Machida crush Sonnen[/b] this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigoRua Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I agree with you about Machida not having a opponent at this moment BUT dont agree with Sonnen going for LHW just to fight Machida. Sonnen should come back to MW, fight a guy like Munoz or Stann THEN eother fight Machida r Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takeshi_Dai Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I agree with you about Machida not having a opponent at this moment BUT dont agree with Sonnen going for LHW just to fight Machida. Sonnen should come back to MW' date=' fight a guy like Munoz or Stann THEN eother fight Machida r Anderson[/quote'] No. Sonnen needs his butt whooped by someone from Blackhouse sooner than later. The guy deserves a royal azz-beating and Machida is the perfect guy to dish it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlebright Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Hah' date=' right. Chael is going to add 20lbs of muscle mass with no steroids, then cut back to 185 after he gets smashed by Lyoto[/quote'] Chael won't need to add any muscle mass to fight at 205. He already walks around at 220. This would just be an easier cut for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killinit Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I think chael has put on quite a bit of mass on his long lay off. He has looked huge as of late and may want a fight at 205 so he can get in the ring faster and healthier and why not call out Andersons buddy in the meantime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpyEr Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I really, really hope this fight happens.Machida is a perfect guy do punish Chael for every single word that Chael has said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 even if Machida can finish Sonnen early with strikes & kinda show up Anderson, its not like they're ever gonna fight each other - I dunno, ... it will be entertaining I suppose ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_MC Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I think it makes sense. I just never thought it would happen, now it seems possible. The only other fight for Machida is winner of Shogun/Forrest. Chaels mad cause Machida retired Randy. And he's ducking Anderson, why the stop at 205?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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