JP24 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Just to get a taste of where our community is at. Only fill the boxes on the poll if you feel the associated fighter would CERTAINLY beat him, not just maybe. Would is the keyword in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorporalClegg Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Just to get a taste of where our community is at. Nobody. He will be Champion. Frankie Edgar Gray Maynard Jim Miller Clay Guida BJ Penn(If he moves back down) Kenny Florian (If he moves back up) Anthony Pettis Ben Henderson Other(s) POLL Coming. It will be multiple choice. Everyone on the list would beat Guillard... even Guida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForcexrecoN Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 IT = NO Frankie Edgar Gray Maynard Jim Miller Gay Guida BOLD = MAYBE/YES Anthony Pettis (MAYBE) Ben Henderson Edson Barboza (A Few years after developing himself, he's 24) Mainly because Pettis could pull off a lighting strikes twice scenario, Ben Henderson is a great grappler that can't be KO'd or Submitted. And Barboza's kicks are like swinging cement blocks, but he needs a few years of work because he's only 24 and made a transition from Muay Thai Pro to MMA a few years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiemo Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 It depends on what Guillard shows up. He's 28 now so he shouldn't be crazy enough to think he can man handle everyone. I think If guillard sticks to his base (striking) and works TDD and polishes up his BJJ, I think he could become LW champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglebird Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I think he will be humbled when he faces a top LW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuberling Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Doesn't matter how hard he hits, he'll lose to Melendez in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 My list of people who WOULD absolutely beat him, IMO. Frankie Edgar Gray Maynard Clay Guida BJ Penn Kenny Florian Sean Sherk Gilbert Melendez (Whenever he gets in the UFC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleindemnity Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Everyone on the list would beat Guillard... even Guida. You're obviously bias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Only vote for people you fully believe would defeat Guillard. No maybes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForrestGriffinFan101 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I have: Frankie Jim Miller Clay BJ Njokuani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I have: Frankie Jim Miller Clay BJ Njokuani Njokuani is one of the guys you think would win? He certainly did put the hurting on Winner, but he lost to Barboza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I thought the mods were gonna give us the ability to do more poll options. I would have liked to have several more than just the ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForrestGriffinFan101 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Njokuani is one of the guys you think would win? He certainly did put the hurting on Winner' date=' but he lost to Barboza.[/quote'] Yeah, but that was a close fight. Plus, I think Barboza has a style that would be harder for Njokuani to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Yeah' date=' but that was a close fight. Plus, I think Barboza has a style that would be harder for Njokuani to beat.[/quote'] Styles DO make fights... Edgar vs. Penn was a perfect example. I think Penn is much better, but Edgar had the tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleindemnity Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Njokuani is one of the guys you think would win? He certainly did put the hurting on Winner' date=' but he lost to Barboza.[/quote'] I didnt expect Winner to get beat up like that and i choose winner to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I didnt expect Winner to get beat up like that and i choose winner to win Winner is loser now! Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForrestGriffinFan101 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Styles DO make fights... Edgar vs. Penn was a perfect example. I think Penn is much better' date=' but Edgar had the tools.[/quote'] Yeah, and Guillard wouldn't have the kicks. Njokuani would win, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossles Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I put Miller and other for Melendez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I put Miller and other for Melendez Melendez, I admit, could probably take Frank Edgar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Looks like BJ Penn and Jim Miller are favorited for a win over Guillard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 No LW would CERTAINLY beat Guillard, but Guillard wouldn't CERTAINLY beat many This is MMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 No LW would CERTAINLY beat Guillard' date=' but Guillard wouldn't CERTAINLY beat many This is MMA[/quote'] Who would you back against Melvin is basically what I am asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDevil Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 almost everyone..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 almost everyone..lol lol Only ones I didn't pick were Bendo, Miller, and Pettis. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I'd only consider Guillard a clear underdog against Maynard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullbone Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Winner is loser now! Haha He did lose, but he showed he can take a beating. Edgar Penn Guida Maynard -all would beat Melvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnages Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Melvin will beat all except Penn(if he decides to fight at his actualy weight) and Aldo (if he moves up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicboxer Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 He will beat anyone who trys to stand with him. He would definitely KO Edgar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGS17 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 He did lose' date=' but he showed he can take a beating. Edgar [b']Penn[/b] Guida Maynard -all would beat Melvin no and no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidStateLogic Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Gray Maynard - Lay and Pary Jim Miller - Sub BJ Penn - Outclassed The rest of them is a toss up, however if he fights someone with good takedowns and an iron chin he will be in trouble... But Gilbert Melendez beats everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFMRE Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Jim Miller is the only guy that I think could possibly do it. Guillard has great wrestling and fast, powerful striking. His submission game is his only potential weakness and there aren't a lot of good submission guys at the top of the 155 division. I do think Guillard has the wrestling skills to hang with the top wrestlers and the speed and power in his striking to stand with anyone in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSuperman Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Edgar would outbox him in a decision Maynard would outwrestle him and maybe, possibly get a TKO. Miller would just beat him. Guida would grind him out. Penn is obvious The other three are just toss ups. Either of these guys could win on any night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapst Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I picked everyone but Guida, Pettis, and Henderson, and tbh, I think all of them "might" be able to beat him, but I wouldn't put money on them. L O L at Guida getting 3 votes more than Florian. Kenny never gets any credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapst Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 People do realize this is the same Guillard who lost to Nate Diaz, Rich Clementi, & Joe Stevenson, right? How much better did he actually get in the last 2 years? The only major improvement I really see so far is his patience. Is this really enough to finally solidify a spot in the upper echelon of the division? I honestly think everyone in the poll has the potential to beat him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pengu Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Penn would beat him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo_Junior_AldoFTW Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Guida, Jim Miller, Bendo, maynard, Edgar, Barboza, Njokuani I put Barboza and Njokuani because they both pretty much have exactly the same style and it's lethal and i don't see Melvin puttin them away so easily without gettin beat up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble170cHAMP Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 i dont think guillard can be beat by any of these guys. pettis is the only one near as fast and his power is unmatched. i think he can keep the fight standing this time around and really dominate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuseFan Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Top LWs versus Guillard... Edgar : Would try to out-point until his head was so rattled he'd be force to try wrestling. By that point he'd have his bell run badly enough Guillard would out-work him. (Guillard) Maynard : Maynard would work harder for the ground, though he isn't the most dominant wrestler and Guillard would find ways to get to their feet to keep outstriking Maynard. (Guillard) Miller : Jim Miller is a very solid guy and I would say he is one of two that would out-do Guillard on the ground and he would want to do that to win over Guillard. (Miller) Guida : Next to Miller, the best guy to ground Guillard and out-wrestle him. He might also have the best chin in the division and wouldn't be put away by strikes and use Guillard's strikes to get takedowns. (Guida, though with both at Jackson's I doubt they'll fight) Penn : If a motivated BJ shows up, he'd win. Sadly, he's not motivated to seriously try to win and would lose the kickboxing match. (Guillard) Florian : If he moved back to LW he might be the most likely to sub Guillard. Then again Florian keeps moving down in weight when he gets into trouble so this fight will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 He'd beat them all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 He will beat anyone who trys to stand with him. He would definitely KO Edgar. Pity they all wont stand with him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRearNaked Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Ben Henderson vs Melvin Guillard would be a awesome fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Ben Henderson vs Melvin Guillard would be a awesome fight Bendo takes that easily - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangasm Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Not much love for Kenflo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorporalClegg Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 How is "others" not extremely high? Melendez and Alvarez would beat his ***. Aoki would break something if it hit the ground for a split second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays_Hero Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Edgar, Maynard and Guida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verJJ Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Its MMA. But honestly Maynard might have the best chance, the rest would get KO'd. Melendez would of wish he stayed at SF and Florian would look like Barry after getting ktfo for the first time. Maynard is probably the best LnPer in the division, but I doubt even he could hold onto Guillard for long periods. And for those who are saying people have iron chins; Barry had one, Hardy had one, Daley had one, both korean fighters had one. Anyone and everyone can get rocked. With Melvin's speed and natural power in his hands, I honestly think no one would stand a chance. Who else can match his speed/power combo at 155? He has all the tools now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 So many people think that Guillard is gonna be champ. Let's see about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosnianbjj Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 It depends on what Guillard shows up. He's 28 now so he shouldn't be crazy enough to think he can man handle everyone. I think If guillard sticks to his base (striking) and works TDD and polishes up his BJJ' date=' I think he could become LW champ.[/quote'] this so no vote btw clay guida for lw champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 this so no vote btw clay guida for lw champion No vote? You don't think anyone can beat Guillard when he shows up good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Melvin is the future of the sport... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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