King_Can Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 ^^^ the title. This is a thread based of my other thread that is too long of a read but I think this is a major issue in the UFC right now, and if there was a possible way to fix it, In my opinion, the sport will begin to grow a lot faster. my 2 suggestion: 1. Give the agressor more points then the wrestler. what I mean is if a guy gets taken down and he is attacking from the bottem, and the guy on top is just defending the entire round, I believe the person on the bottom should win the round. This would be more fair for fighters like Torres, who like to fight from guard. If you have ever done MMA, you would know how much more you can do from the bottom. Pettis lost the fight because he was on the bottom. 2. Yellow cards. If a fighter chooses to lay on someone and do no dammage, go for no submission attempts, and waste time, the fight should be stood up. Additionally, I am not sure if this would be benificial or not but if a fighter gets a yellow card (let's use fitch as an example), he should not be awarded points for taking the guy down and laying on him. thoughts? edit: Not all wrestlers exploit the scoring system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_Against_The_World Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 ^^^ the title. This is a thread based of my other thread that is too long of a read but I think this is a major issue in the UFC right now' date=' and if there was a possible way to fix it, In my opinion, the sport will begin to grow a lot faster. my 2 suggestion: 1. Give the agressor more points then the wrestler. what I mean is if a guy gets taken down and he is attacking from the bottem, and the guy on top is just defending the entire round, I believe the person on the bottom should win the round. This would be more fair for fighters like Torres, who like to fight from guard. If you have ever done MMA, you would know how much more you can do from the bottom. Pettis lost the fight because he was on the bottom. 2. Yellow cards. If a fighter chooses to lay on someone and do no dammage, go for no submission attempts, and waste time, the fight should be stood up. Additionally, I am not sure if this would be benificial or not but if a fighter gets a yellow card (let's use fitch as an example), he should not be awarded points for taking the guy down and laying on him. thoughts?[/quote'] You are my least favorite forum member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglebird Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 ^^^ the title. This is a thread based of my other thread that is too long of a read but I think this is a major issue in the UFC right now' date=' and if there was a possible way to fix it, In my opinion, the sport will begin to grow a lot faster. my 2 suggestion: 1. Give the agressor more points then the wrestler. [b']what I mean is if a guy gets taken down and he is attacking from the bottem, and the guy on top is just defending the entire round, I believe the person on the bottom should win the round. [/b] This would be more fair for fighters like Torres, who like to fight from guard. If you have ever done MMA, you would know how much more you can do from the bottom. Pettis lost the fight because he was on the bottom. 2. Yellow cards. If a fighter chooses to lay on someone and do no dammage, go for no submission attempts, and waste time, the fight should be stood up. Additionally, I am not sure if this would be benificial or not but if a fighter gets a yellow card (let's use fitch as an example), he should not be awarded points for taking the guy down and laying on him. thoughts? yum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 yum. ? lol wtf:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglebird Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 ? lol wtf:confused: i agree with the bold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglebird Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 We see your point' date=' even through your bad english. And your first point is a good one. Giving points for a TD is ok, but for holding control is bs. Your opinion on Torres was dead on. His last fight he proved your theory better than anyone in the history of MMA. He was striking, reversing and trying sub attempts from bottom. Mighty Mouse simply tried to stay on top and won Same with Pettis. Part of this is the ref's fault. Herb Dean never lets a fight go stale long. He stands them up when there is no action. [b'] But what about vise/versa. When fighters like A.Silva refuse to strike and keep backing up in a match like the Leites and Maia fights where at times over a minute went by with NO CONTACT? You can't exactly lay them down can you?[/b] Yellow Cards for fights like Silva vs. Maia. That shouldnt be any more acceptable than "lay n pray" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 We see your point' date=' even through your bad english. And your first point is a good one. Giving points for a TD is ok, but for holding control is bs. Your opinion on Torres was dead on. His last fight he proved your theory better than anyone in the history of MMA. He was striking, reversing and trying sub attempts from bottom. Mighty Mouse simply tried to stay on top and won Same with Pettis. Part of this is the ref's fault. Herb Dean never lets a fight go stale long. He stands them up when there is no action. But what about vise/versa. When fighters like A.Silva refuse to strike and keep backing up in a match like the Leites and Maia fights where at times over a minute went by with NO CONTACT? You can't exactly lay them down can you?[/quote'] lol english is my first language :confused: I just don't read over my work. lol wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 We see your point' date=' even through your bad english. And your first point is a good one. Giving points for a TD is ok, but for holding control is bs. [b']Your opinion on Torres was dead on. His last fight he proved your theory better than anyone in the history of MMA. He was striking, reversing and trying sub attempts from bottom. Mighty Mouse simply tried to stay on top and won[/b]Same with Pettis. Part of this is the ref's fault. Herb Dean never lets a fight go stale long. He stands them up when there is no action. But what about vise/versa. When fighters like A.Silva refuse to strike and keep backing up in a match like the Leites and Maia fights where at times over a minute went by with NO CONTACT? You can't exactly lay them down can you? this is what I've been stressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 You are my least favorite forum member. wish I could pretend I gave a crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRearNaked Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 ^^^ the title. This is a thread based of my other thread that is too long of a read but I think this is a major issue in the UFC right now' date=' and if there was a possible way to fix it, In my opinion, the sport will begin to grow a lot faster. my 2 suggestion: 1. Give the agressor more points then the wrestler. what I mean is if a guy gets taken down and he is attacking from the bottem, and the guy on top is just defending the entire round, I believe the person on the bottom should win the round. This would be more fair for fighters like Torres, who like to fight from guard. If you have ever done MMA, you would know how much more you can do from the bottom. Pettis lost the fight because he was on the bottom. 2. Yellow cards. If a fighter chooses to lay on someone and do no dammage, go for no submission attempts, and waste time, the fight should be stood up. Additionally, I am not sure if this would be benificial or not but if a fighter gets a yellow card (let's use fitch as an example), he should not be awarded points for taking the guy down and laying on him. thoughts? edit: Not all wrestlers exploit the scoring system.[/quote'] Give people points for actually stopping the takedown. Just like in the siver fight. He stopping the other guys takedowns so he should be getting points for that just as much as a wrestler gets points for getting the takedown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHUCK_N0RRIS Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Why come everytime nobody finishes somebody people got mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 You are my least favorite forum member. ... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxx77 Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 the only wrestler that takes advantage is fitch the B****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHUCK_N0RRIS Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 the only wrestler that takes advantage is fitch the B****. Dint forgot about GSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuseFan Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Lumping Guida in as a wrestler who just lays is stupid. In his fight against Pettis, what did Pettis do exactly that was offense? Flailed legs. Check Held onto one wrist with both hands. Check Had 1 submission attempt. Check Threatened with submission attempt. Advanced position. Reversed. Created a scramble. Obtained a highly advantageous position in a scramble. Check. Kept it. Never was in a compromising position. Guida won. Period. He was trying to advance past Pettis' defensive guard, create scrambles, and strike as best he could. He easily got out of an armbar attempt, reversed Pettis having his back, and was inexorably working to a RNC when Pettis was saved by the bell. If you throw Pettis' name around like he was seriously aggressive in this fight then you clearly are a fool and would be as poor of a judge as the people you are blaming for a flawed scoring system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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