armbarvictim Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 http://www.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/99766.html?CMP=OTC-RSS Hardy vs Marquardt would've been a good one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bear413 Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 http://www.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/99766.html?CMP=OTC-RSS Hardy vs Marquardt would've been a good one too. No it wouldn't have. Marquardt would have killed Hardy. As far as Marquardt saying Hardy didn't deserve the title shot, it's absolutely true. His only notable win was against Swick, and if Swick won that fight, do you think he would have gotten the title shot? Hell no. Dana would have said, "well to hell with trying to hype Dan Hardy up", and he would have just put him on any card in australia or england. The best part about this story is that it's not over yet. I will be shocked if Marquardt never returns to the UFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armbarvictim Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 No it wouldn't have. Marquardt would have killed Hardy. As far as Marquardt saying Hardy didn't deserve the title shot' date=' it's absolutely true. His only notable win was against Swick, and if Swick won that fight, do you think he would have gotten the title shot? Hell no. Dana would have said, "well to hell with trying to hype Dan Hardy up", and he would have just put him on any card in australia or england. The best part about this story is that it's not over yet. I will be shocked if Marquardt never returns to the UFC.[/quote'] Maybe so, but it would've stayed on the feet, and Hardy presses the action so someone would have gone out swinging which to me is quite entertaining. And also I didn't say anything about Hardy deserving a title shot all I did was post an article. I doubt Marquardt will never return. If Dana was true to his word Daley would probably be out the door as well, even though he's SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bear413 Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Maybe so' date=' but it would've stayed on the feet, and Hardy presses the action so someone would have gone out swinging which to me is quite entertaining. And also I didn't say anything about Hardy deserving a title shot all I did was post an article. I doubt Marquardt will never return. If Dana was true to his word Daley would probably be out the door as well, even though he's SF.[/quote'] It wouldn't have stayed on the feet. There is no way Greg Jackson would let that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armbarvictim Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 It wouldn't have stayed on the feet. There is no way Greg Jackson would let that happen. Even if the gameplan did involve taking Hardy down (which Greg probably would plan, I don't disagree there) All three rounds start on the feet. Just ask Maia who Nate Ko'd. All I'm saying is I think it'd be a decent fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 No it wouldn't have. Marquardt would have killed Hardy.As far as Marquardt saying Hardy didn't deserve the title shot' date=' it's absolutely true. [/quote'] agreed here, Hardy is do or die head-hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocforums Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 nate will go work for strikeforce or dream .. dana said ufc not zuffa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasman8402 Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Even if the gameplan did involve taking Hardy down (which Greg probably would plan' date=' I don't disagree there) All three rounds start on the feet. Just ask Maia who Nate Ko'd. All I'm saying is I think it'd be a decent fight.[/quote'] It gets so old hearing everyone say it would be a good fight cuz it would stay on their feet. This guy always takes them down, etc. This is F'n mixed martial arts people if you don't like the ground game their are plenty of different stand up styles of martial arts you can watch. People who understand the ground game actually like it whether the fight stays on their feet or not. Yes it does get boring if there isn't much going on, but when your down there it isn't as easy to pass, mount, submit, sweep, etc as it may look like it should be from the television. It's a game of chess and I for one like to see that, that's why I watch MMA not K1 (not that I don't watch K1) The best fights are not the ones that stay on their feet, the best are the ones who mix it up well hence the term Mixed Martial Arts! I love how no one expects a striker to take the fight to the ground if they are more comfortable striking, but expect grapplers to keep it standing when they are more comfortable on the ground. I'll tell you what go train BJJ/wrestling for 15 years get really really good and comfortable with it then go fight A Silva.. but don't take it down where you know he's weaker and your stronger no keep it standing. But don't say anything about Silva not trying to take it down because he knows the same thing as you, no that wouldn't be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasman8402 Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 kimbo vs huston Mir vs Crocop Takada vs Mike Bernardo A Silva vs leites A Silva vs Maia just a few extremely boring stand up fights. Just because it's standing doesn't mean it's exciting and just because it's on the ground doens't mean it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armbarvictim Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 It gets so old hearing everyone say it would be a good fight cuz it would stay on their feet. This guy always takes them down' date=' etc. This is F'n mixed martial arts people if you don't like the ground game their are plenty of different stand up styles of martial arts you can watch. People who understand the ground game actually like it whether the fight stays on their feet or not. Yes it does get boring if there isn't much going on, but when your down there it isn't as easy to pass, mount, submit, sweep, etc as it may look like it should be from the television. It's a game of chess and I for one like to see that, that's why I watch MMA not K1 (not that I don't watch K1) The best fights are not the ones that stay on their feet, the best are the ones who mix it up well hence the term Mixed Martial Arts! I love how no one expects a striker to take the fight to the ground if they are more comfortable striking, but expect grapplers to keep it standing when they are more comfortable on the ground. I'll tell you what go train BJJ/wrestling for 15 years get really really good and comfortable with it then go fight A Silva.. but don't take it down where you know he's weaker and your stronger no keep it standing. But don't say anything about Silva not trying to take it down because he knows the same thing as you, no that wouldn't be right.[/quote'] First of all, I know what MMA stands for and find every fight entertaining. I'm not the one who said it wouldn't be a good fight. My favorite fighter is BJ Penn one of the best Jits guys in the world. There is nothing I love more than a good sweep or submission. For example the Condit Kim fight had a sick sweep right before it had a sick KO. Mixed up and entertaining, there you go. Neither of these fighters is known for there grappling prowess (although nate would win that department) thus I predicted a standup fight. NOT ONCE DID I SAY THAT GROUND FIGHTS WERE BORING!!! I was talking to a guy who said it wouldn't be a good fight b/c Greg Jackson is an excellent gameplanner and would have gotten Nate to outgrapple Hardy. I tried to sell the fight by telling him it always starts on the feet since apparently that's what he likes in a fight. As a matter of fact it's what most people like in a fight, so don't be so sick of people saying that, it will always be said by the casual fans. Try not to be so condescending next time and maybe quote the right guy when you go off on your next rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasman8402 Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 First of all' date=' I know what MMA stands for and find every fight entertaining. I'm not the one who said it wouldn't be a good fight. My favorite fighter is BJ Penn one of the best Jits guys in the world. There is nothing I love more than a good sweep or submission. For example the Condit Kim fight had a sick sweep right before it had a sick KO. Mixed up and entertaining, there you go. Neither of these fighters is known for there grappling prowess (although nate would win that department) thus I predicted a standup fight. NOT ONCE DID I SAY THAT GROUND FIGHTS WERE BORING!!! I was talking to a guy who said it wouldn't be a good fight b/c Greg Jackson is an excellent gameplanner and would have gotten Nate to outgrapple Hardy. I tried to sell the fight by telling him it always starts on the feet since apparently that's what he likes in a fight. As a matter of fact it's what most people like in a fight, so don't be so sick of people saying that, it will always be said by the casual fans. Try not to be so condescending next time and maybe quote the right guy when you go off on your next rant.[/quote'] My apologies if that was not your intention. When you said more than once it would be good because it would stay on the feet, I assumed you meant that's the reason it would be exciting. Anyway it gets very old hearing people complain about the ground over and over so hearing that fights are better standing gets on my nerves. As for BJ yea he's one of the best BJJ's but he mixes it up very well so as a fan of BJ you obviously have no issues with the ground. So once again I apologize I just like to talk about MMA not get trolled every 2 mins and read 9-10 thread saying why MMA sucks as they claim it to be their favorite sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagging_ballsack Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Anyone can beat Nate.. If you make him work like Cheal and Okami did, he will jus give up imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I am on Hardy's side here. Marquardt has tested positive to PEDs in the UFC 3 times now. Such a person has no credibility trashing another professional fighter. Hardy did better against GSP than Shields, Koscheck, or Alves. So stop crying about Hardy's title shot. "On the bright side, he'll always have a job as a Chippendale." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armbarvictim Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 My apologies if that was not your intention. When you said more than once it would be good because it would stay on the feet' date=' I assumed you meant that's the reason it would be exciting. Anyway it gets very old hearing people complain about the ground over and over so hearing that fights are better standing gets on my nerves. As for BJ yea he's one of the best BJJ's but he mixes it up very well so as a fan of BJ you obviously have no issues with the ground. So once again I apologize I just like to talk about MMA not get trolled every 2 mins and read 9-10 thread saying why MMA sucks as they claim it to be their favorite sport.[/quote'] All good bud, it's easy to get PO'd at half the idiots on here, so thanks appreciate this post. Trolls are easy to come by on here, shouldn't let it get to you. Everyone's different, and I find alot of the casual fans/ UFC not MMA fans are the ones who only enjoy the slugfests. I myself, like you, am not one of them. Cheers Dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crangs Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 No it wouldn't have. Marquardt would have killed Hardy. As far as Marquardt saying Hardy didn't deserve the title shot' date=' it's absolutely true. His only notable win was against Swick, and [b']if Swick won that fight, do you think he would have gotten the title shot? [/b]Hell no. Dana would have said, "well to hell with trying to hype Dan Hardy up", and he would have just put him on any card in australia or england. The best part about this story is that it's not over yet. I will be shocked if Marquardt never returns to the UFC. Pretty sure Swick, on a 4-0 win streak, was being lined up for a title shot with his fight with Martin Kampmann before he got injured in training, The Hardy fight was supposed to be for Swicks title shot but i guess he he got his "Florian'' on and choked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 u mad, Nate? Oh no you didn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 u mad' date=' Nate?[/size'] Oh no you didn't! I was hoping some people would see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpyEr Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 u mad' date=' Nate?[/size'] Oh no you didn't! Lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 I was hoping some people would see this. Go vote and post in my PED thread. I can't believe it has no replies yet. What is wrong with you guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Go vote and post in my PED thread. I can't believe it has no replies yet. What is wrong with you guys? Wait, what?!?!? I'm on it. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays_Hero Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Just because Nate is out of the UFC, doesn't mean this fight won't happen. Hardy is so close to getting cut that they could end up fighting each other in SF or somewhere.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Hmmm, a 1 dimensional headhunter Vs a PED cheat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Just because Nate is out of the UFC' date=' doesn't mean this fight won't happen. Hardy is so close to getting cut that they could end up fighting each other in SF or somewhere..[/quote'] Agreed... ^ Once Hardy loses to Lytle & is cut... There is every chance Nate & Hardy could cross paths.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 nate will go work for strikeforce or dream .. dana said ufc not zuffa ... he' ll get picked up quick, maybe that will be Coker's announcement - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bahrain2009 Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 http://www.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/99766.html?CMP=OTC-RSS Hardy vs Marquardt would've been a good one too. REALLY ? didnt u learn anyting from dan hardy fights ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 ... he' ll get picked up quick' date=' maybe that will be Coker's announcement -[/quote'] I'd be suprised if it was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyran125 Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Dan Hardy has appeal.....Hes fun to watch and gives everyone grief, whats not to like? He actually can be pretty funny. When he said the irish hand grenade isnt even Irish, that was funny as hell. The whole reason hes still in the UFC, there is an appeal there from the audience. Hes fun to watch. Hed get cut if he shaved his Mo-Hawk off. I think it will be do or die in 2 more fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbrahams Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Dan Hardy's relevance - LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Agreed... ^ Once Hardy loses to Lytle & is cut... There is every chance Nate & Hardy could cross paths.. I honestly disagree with most the forum peeps in here. Lytle doesn't have anything to offer Dan Hardy, but maybe a submission game. He won't get Hardy to the mat, and he won't outstrike Hardy. Hardy by TKO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towhatend Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 I honestly disagree with most the forum peeps in here. Lytle doesn't have anything to offer Dan Hardy' date=' but maybe a submission game. He won't get Hardy to the mat, and he won't outstrike Hardy. Hardy by TKO.[/quote'] If Hardy wins via TKO - not on cuts - I'll put JP24 is a God in my signature. You don't have to risk anything, this is like a one-way sig bet. I think the only way Hardy wins is if he gets a close decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamaw Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Maybe so' date=' but it would've stayed on the feet, and Hardy presses the action so someone would have gone out swinging which to me is quite entertaining. And also I didn't say anything about Hardy deserving a title shot all I did was post an article. I doubt Marquardt will never return. If Dana was true to his word [b']Daley would probably be out the door as well[/b], even though he's SF. i like daley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 If Hardy wins via TKO - not on cuts - I'll put JP24 is a God in my signature. You don't have to risk anything' date=' this is like a one-way sig bet. I think the only way Hardy wins is if he gets a close decision.[/quote'] LOL Then you better be ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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